On 11/16/14 12:50 AM, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> andrew fabbro wrote on Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 04:34:35PM -0800:
> 
>> What about writing tutorials/articles?

It's been a recuring talked before and just do not work.

> That is most definitely *not* a job for beginners.
> Writing good tutorials requires much more expertise and
> experience than writing reference documentation or
> hunting for bugs.
> 
>> There's www.openbsdsupport.org which I believe is officially blessed
> 
> Not at all.  It is completely unofficial, i didn't even know about it,
> and a brief look gives me the impression that most of the content is
> probably completely outdated.  Besides, i haven't ever heard of most
> of the authors, so i doubt the content could be trusted in the first
> place.
> 
> I'd strongly advise against using that site for anything.

Yes it is there as a proof of concept that is now going into it's 10th
years anniversary!

If you want to know why it was created look at the archive 10 years ago.
It's all there.

And the goal is clear on the site that it is suppose to be for people
like this that want to do documentation, but it NEVER go anywhere at all!

I did this to prove the point for the recurring talk here. It is not
working! Lots of talk and none last more then a few weeks at best and
the site prove it too!

And no again it is DEFINITELY NOT OFFICIAL like it said on it too!

>> though it doesn't look too active.  Probably for lack of people
>> submitting articles :-)

Nope.

>> Of course if you have a blog or web site you can write OpenBSD
>> stuff for it.

Not any different, but be my guess and prove me wrong. (:>

> Please don't.  Beginners spreading misinformation across the web are
> not helping anybody.  If you think something could be added to the
> FAQ, submit it for inclusion and have it checked.  Don't publish
> random, unchecked stuff in random locations.

True man pages are the reference to use period. This site is more like a
social experiment to show how talk is cheap and actual work never go
anywhere. (:>

>> I know I've sometimes struggled with putting the pieces together where a
>> step-by-step "how to accomplish X" with OpenBSD would have helped.  Just
>> last week, Ted Unangst's "what I wish I known before setting up OpenBSD on
>> my Beagle Bone Black" on his blog saved me a lot of time and frustration.
> 
> Yes.  That is different.  If people who really know what they are doing
> prepare writeups, that can indeed be helpful.

Yes but I must say, they are very rare.

Daniel

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