On Feb 18, 2008 2:25 AM, Kenneth R Westerback <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 12:23:44AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
>
> > On Feb 17, 2008 11:23 PM, Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Let me take a stab of responding to this...
> >
> > Thanks for responding...
> >
> > > On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 05:33:12PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > NOTE: No intention to behave like a troll.
> > > >
> > > > I've been following the "multi-threaded ssh/scp" thread and read Ted's
> > > > comment that he's stopped working on the kernel threads code because
> > > > he doesn't have the time for it nor does he need it any more.
> > > > Also that multi-threaded ssh/scp would weaken security features within 
> > > > the OS.
> > >
> > > Ted had an itch that rthreads scratched.  He worked on it and
> > > unfortunately for all of us he ran out of time and even more
> > > unfortunately he ran out of steam.  In OpenBSD land that means that
> > > someone else needs to pick it up.  Let me reiterate that this is
> > > extremely unfortunate but not not unusual.
> > >
> > > We, the consumers of Ted's code, can not dictate him what to do and
> > > when.  He is very busy man with wide interests.  When you and I get to
> > > use some of his code, FOR FREE, we should thank him instead of
> > > complaining.  I have had the pleasure of working with Ted on several
> > > pieces of code and I am thankful for his time.  I learnt quite a few
> > > things along the way.
> >
> > Its good to know that Ted did indeed try to scratch an itch of his and
> > laid down some ground work for future developers to take it beyond its
> > basic level.
> > But, it would have been *nicer* if Ted had put in some more of his
> > time and effort to complete what he started.
> > Also, we don't get to use his code for FREE, I suppose most of the
> > users *buy* CD sets.
>
> If only they did. A miniscule percentage of the user community buys
> CD's, and the sales are dropping. The vast majority of users simply
> download the code. The faster internet connections get the fewer CDs
> are sold. Not complaining, we provide the code for them to do that,
> but ...
>
> If all our users bought a CD set there would be a *lot* more
> development going on by dedicated/paid developers. If corporations
> needing paperwork to donate would contact www.openbsdfoundation.org
> and donate there would be a lot more development going on. And if pigs
> could code as well as fly all our problems would be solved.

Ken, in that case why don't you and rest of the team, led by Theo take
a concious decision to stop downloads?
Why are you harming yourselves by allowing people to also download?
I for one buy CDs every year, year after year.

Best,

~Mayuresh

~Mayuresh

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