I second that notion.

Mehma
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On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Owain Ainsworth <zer...@googlemail.com>wrote:

> As someone who went from "knowing a small amount of C " to hacking the
> kernel, i call bullshit on your assumptions here.
>
> On 1/21/10, Tobias Ulmer <tobi...@tmux.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 05:52:52PM -0800, James Hozier wrote:
> >> With every single laptop I've bought/been given over the years, I
> >> was able to run OpenBSD on them almost flawlessly save a few
> >> quick/simple hacks to make anything that didn't work, work.
> >>
> >> The one main issue I've had with ALL of them was the wireless
> >> card...maybe I was just unlucky to have gotten ones with crappy
> >> chipsets (like this Broadcom I have now which is totally useless...
> >> I want to stomp on it real badly) but nonetheless it pisses me off.
> >>
> >> I want to try and help solve my own problems as well as for the OBSD
> >> community who might also have this particular issue, so I'm looking
> >> to research on how to reverse engineer these things and write drivers
> >> for them.
> >>
> >> I know it's not easy, even though I don't understand how hard it is
> >> because I've never done it before, but I do hear that if there's a
> >> hell, it's a place where people are sent to do this for eternity.
> >>
> >> So with that reference in mind, would anyone experienced care to point
> >> me in some correct direction? (Which texts to read, which programming
> >> language(s) to focus on, etc.)
> >
> > - C
> > - any intro/boot to x86 assembly; to get the basics
> > - intel cpu pdfs
> > - ida pro / ollydbg
> > - something on computer architecture.
> > - windows ddk to get an idea how drivers work on windows, possibly book
> >   on same topic.
> > - BSD basics (McKusick, Bach, etc) + whatever you can get your hands on
> > - Device is connected via a BUS to CPU -> docs.
> > - IEEE standards
> > - any other docs.
> > - more of the same
> > - Read lots of code.
> > - supertanker sized amounts of experience
> > - ability to research stuff yourself, without asking on a ml
> > - etc
> >
> > Your question is naive. If you were up to it, you wouldn't have to ask
> > the equivalent of "How do I become an awesome hacker?".
> >
> > Writing this up was and is a waste of time, it will never happen.
> >
> >
>
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