The only one who can prove that my assumptions are BS would be James.
The pressure is on, maybe you want to help him with better pointers than
mine instead of just calling bs.

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:19:10PM +0000, Owain Ainsworth wrote:
> As someone who went from "knowing a small amount of C " to hacking the
> kernel, i call bullshit on your assumptions here.
> 
> On 1/21/10, Tobias Ulmer <tobi...@tmux.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 05:52:52PM -0800, James Hozier wrote:
> >> With every single laptop I've bought/been given over the years, I
> >> was able to run OpenBSD on them almost flawlessly save a few
> >> quick/simple hacks to make anything that didn't work, work.
> >>
> >> The one main issue I've had with ALL of them was the wireless
> >> card...maybe I was just unlucky to have gotten ones with crappy
> >> chipsets (like this Broadcom I have now which is totally useless...
> >> I want to stomp on it real badly) but nonetheless it pisses me off.
> >>
> >> I want to try and help solve my own problems as well as for the OBSD
> >> community who might also have this particular issue, so I'm looking
> >> to research on how to reverse engineer these things and write drivers
> >> for them.
> >>
> >> I know it's not easy, even though I don't understand how hard it is
> >> because I've never done it before, but I do hear that if there's a
> >> hell, it's a place where people are sent to do this for eternity.
> >>
> >> So with that reference in mind, would anyone experienced care to point
> >> me in some correct direction? (Which texts to read, which programming
> >> language(s) to focus on, etc.)
> >
> > - C
> > - any intro/boot to x86 assembly; to get the basics
> > - intel cpu pdfs
> > - ida pro / ollydbg
> > - something on computer architecture.
> > - windows ddk to get an idea how drivers work on windows, possibly book
> >   on same topic.
> > - BSD basics (McKusick, Bach, etc) + whatever you can get your hands on
> > - Device is connected via a BUS to CPU -> docs.
> > - IEEE standards
> > - any other docs.
> > - more of the same
> > - Read lots of code.
> > - supertanker sized amounts of experience
> > - ability to research stuff yourself, without asking on a ml
> > - etc
> >
> > Your question is naive. If you were up to it, you wouldn't have to ask
> > the equivalent of "How do I become an awesome hacker?".
> >
> > Writing this up was and is a waste of time, it will never happen.
> >
> >
> 
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