I was able to confirm it is the default of '-R 0' that was causing poor quality.  If I 
use '-R 0' on 1.6.1.92 I get the same flood of artifacts that I get with 1.6.1.93.

-- Ray


On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:00:19 -0600
Ray Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Some observations that I did make about .93 (haven't necessarily run all of these 
> same tests on .92, so I have no idea if this is 'different' from .92 or not, but it 
> seems odd to me):
> 
> 1) Changing from -r 16 to -r 32 produced a larger .m2v file by about 3%.  I would 
> have thought it'd be smaller.  -r 24 seemed to produce the smallest file compared to 
> -r 8, -r 16 (which is understandable), and -r 32 (say what?)
> 
> 2) Changing -4 2 to -4 3 produced a smaller file by about 2%, which also seems 
> really strange.  I would have thought the file size would have dropped with a lower 
> -2 and -4 value (same happened when I upped -2 - file got smaller...)
> 
> -- Ray
> 
> 
> On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:55:03 -0600
> Ray Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > With the same parameters as 1.6.1.92, I'm seeing terrible quality problems.
> > 
> > Parameters used:
> > mpeg2enc  -f 8 -q 5 -a 2 -g 6 -G 18 -E -10 -N 1.0 -z t -4 2 -2 2 -r 16 -o file.m2v
> > 
> > I'm seeing very poor quality on still scenes.  Faces are very blotchy.  Now I also 
> > use yuvdenoise - I haven't made any determination as to whether it is the newer 
> > mpeg2enc or newer yuvdenoise killing me, but it feels more like an mpeg2enc issue 
> > more than anything else.  I also haven't tried using -R 2 - that is certainly a 
> > major difference between 92 and 93.  I'll try that as well.  Anyone else 
> > experienced a major decline in quality?
> > 
> > I'll let you know the result of some additional experiments.
> > 
> > -- Ray



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