I have to agree with Dave, the Yoko AVS were great rubber.  Good ride,
quiet, and good grip.

        Dunlops, in my experience, have great stick, but wear quickly.

        I rode on a set of Pirelli P700Z over the weekend and, too, was not
impressed.  I didn't get an overwhelming feeling of security when pushing my
GLi into the twisties.  The feeling just wasn't there.

        Not to beat them to death, but Nittos seem to have the good qualities of
the Yokos, better wear than Dunlops, and don't suck like Pirellis.  But in
the end, tires are like porn stars...everyone's got their favorite and will
argue forever on why theirs is the best.  You've just gotta test 'em out
until you find one you like (wish that applied to porn stars, too).

        Renard

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Subject: Re: [a2-16v-list] Tire Opinions - Pirelli Kumho Yoko


I'll drive on Yokohamas until I can no longer drive.  I even have them on my
work truck.  The (now discontinued) AVS Intermediate was the best
bang-for-the-buck tire I have ever driven on.  I liked them quite a bit more
than the Kumho 712s I replaced them with(on my old '91 Jetta).  When it
comes time for me to go back to my summer wheels (on the '88), I'll be
ordering a set of AVS ES100s to replace the near-bald set of AVS
Intermediates on there now.  Every set of Pirellis I've had has given me
less-than-expected performance for the price.

Yokohama AVS Intermediate: Excellent grip(both wet and dry), low noise, even
at the limit, plus an excellent price and a tread life that far exceeds it's
rating(go easy on the burnouts).  I would expect no less from the AVS
ES100s.

Kumho 712:  Good tire for the money, but not on par with the Yokohamas.
Didn't feel as stable when pushed, and was a bit noisy at the limit.

Pirelli P700Z:  Overpriced for it's return in performance.  Save yourself
the money and look elsewhere.  I believe they have been discontinued anyway.

You may also want to look at Dunlop and Bridgestone.  Not necessarily better
or worse, but other options.

-Dave
'88 Jetta GLI 16V
'81 Scirocco S
'91 Ford F150

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