On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 7:11:57 PM UTC-8, damac2004 wrote: > oh boy i have been pulling this car apart today and i see some carnage. > previous owner strikes again, there are all sorts of little things wrong with > this car. > > > to my horror i found the im shaft oring laying on top of the control arm and > something was flinging around behind the pulley so i knew it was loose, no > bolts. > > > i guess all the interference on that side of the engine is what kept the im > pulley on but it seems to have shaved metal bits away from the timing belt > cover tin, water pump housing, etc. i'm not understanding how that is even > possible since its toward the engine, i guess i will have to investigate > further to see if they are even the right parts. > > > so im assuming the oil pressure alarm went off when it started to work itself > free and probably lost pressure at the im bearings, etc. there is some > weeping oil but oil mark was still on dipstick. i emptied it today and found > little metal specs. > > > the gear end of the im shaft is messed up but it appears the im bearings are > ok? i have seen those go dry and crack and break apart and score. these are > smooth so maybe i caught it early? even when the alarm triggered there was > oil splashing up on the head, although i guess it was less for that minute i > ran the car to get off the road. > > > what im wondering is there is a gear/cap that is held down into the block for > the oil pump to ride through and im shaft to mate with. i was expecting it > to be broken up to but if you can see my picture it seems to be ok? i don't > see a hint of the wear the im shaft has. so was that made of a less strong > material? > > > do i have all the parts, it just sits in its spot in the block and rides > metal on metal on the cap while bathed in oil? > > > im thinking of just doing a timing belt job and fixing little things and > moving on hopefully the engine is ok? > > > also should i put in a better oil pump and a windage tray while i have it > apart or is that needed? > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 9:03:23 PM UTC-8, hollandphillips wrote: > High pressure oil buzzer? In my twenty plus years of owning and working on > Mk2 16V VW's, this is the first time I've heard of the existence of a high > pressure oil alarm. At least with the 2.0 liter Motronic models, there isn't > even an audible low pressure oil pressure alarm. Only a red idiot lamp, which > illuminates when the ignition is switched on, and will disappear once the > engine starts. I believe that the warning lamp will illuminate if the oil > pressure drops below something like 7 - 10psi. An engine with worn main > bearings, or if the oil level is over about one quart low may cause the > warning lamp to flicker at idle, or possibly fully illuminate if things are > really bad. The other symptoms you describe could be caused by a lot of > issues. I suggest removing the upper timing belt cover and perform a thorough > visual inspection. Unfortunately, removing the lower timing belt cover > requires removing all the v- belts, as well as the crank shaft pulley and > crank damper. Also, I would check the main crank damper bolt. If that were to > loosen, the damper could start wobbeling, which may explain the shavings in > the bottom of the timing cover. There are many other possible explanations > for your issues, but things like this are difficult to troubleshooting via > textual explainations. > > I wish you luck, and always feel free to ask questions as they arise. > > ~Holland > > On Dec 24, 2015 20:25, "damac2004" <dama...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > I'm new to these cars. I got one of these a few months ago and planned on > using it as a project to restore for fun. I have been driving it as is > because it worked. I do have to get it smogged and clean up some neglect but > it was getting me around ok with no funky noises. > > > Yesterday I came off the freeway and all of a sudden the high pressure oil > buzzer constantly started going off. I heard a racket of screeches and > clunks in the engine bay and the engine was loping near idle speed. So too > many wierd things at once to ignore, but I had to get off the road so i > probably ran the car about a minute after before turning it off. just > putting my safety first because of where i was vs. potentially blowing up a > motor. > > > i had to work and came back to cold car. i have good fluids and started it > up for a bit. it ran with just the hint of stumbling although i don't know > if these cars typically do that while warming up. it wasn't loping the same. > i reved it and didn't get the light to come on but noticed the racket > sounded like its on the drive belt system. while engine was running only odd > thing i noticed is shavings i think near the intermediate shaft from the > lower plastic timing belt cover. couldn't quite tell if another pully was > actually touching it. > > > im i correct to assume that if something in vbelt system dragged all it would > do is slow down the timing belt, but that would still turn the im shaft > without interference? > > > is it possible a pulley wobbled its way into the im shaft and held it up? i > sure didn't smell smoking timing belt and will have to look closer. it has > power steering, alternator, water pump with 2 vbelts. > > > or maybe something bad happned inside engine with oil pump or the im bearings > and the pulley side is worn and walking out and hitting? > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MK2-16v" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to mk2-16v+u...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to mk2...@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/mk2-16v. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mk2-16v/af959f0b-50cd-474c-917b-f978104e7adb%40googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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