I agree with your thoughts completely. One of the reasons why
I built Apache::ASP was that ASP is a widely used standard,
albeit one that Microsoft developed. I wanted to be able to
leverage the mindshare of ASP scripters & from a templating
standpoint, and this is part of the reason why I didn't
run with Embperl in the first place.
--Joshua
Jacob Davies wrote:
>
> Are you serious?
>
> I see the plethora of templating tools as being the single biggest problem with
> Perl web application development right now.
>
> Don't get me wrong, they're all insanely great and written by extremely smart
> people. But the featuresets overlap enormously, they have incompatible
> templating syntaxes, and incompatible APIs. It's not just that there's more
> than one way to do it, there's *twenty* ways to do it, and using any one of
> them requires you to nail yourself to it. You have to learn the system
> paradigm and API, you have to learn the templating syntax, you have to train
> your HTML coders in the syntax, and you have to accept that your applications
> are going to be tied heavily to that module.
>
> My experience differs greatly from yours in the success of interoperability
> using multiple templating systems inside one server. Even just two versions of
> a very similar templating module (mine) caused enormous confusion on the part
> of the other Perl programmers and amongst the HTML coders. I can't imagine how
> confused they'd get with systems as radically different as Mason and AxKit and
> Embperl and TT and Apache::ASP and HTML::Tree and Text::Template and
> Text::TagTemplate and CGI::FastTemplate and HTML::Template deployed in the same
> installation. My head explodes at the thought.
>
> I would love to work on standardization of at least the basic featureset in
> templating, but I don't know who else would be interested in the effort.
> It would really require all the major templating system developers to work with
> it, and maybe that cat's too far out of the bag. I think that's a real shame
> if it's true, that just as we are starting to get settled on a really basic
> featureset for templating, we are diverging into all these different
> development worlds reimplementing the same ideas in slightly different forms.
>
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 03:31:19PM -0400, aaron wrote:
> > --- begin sappy gratitude ---
> >
> > my ideal system is having an environment where there are many tools.
> > i love seeing all the differences spelled out more! how fuckin' cool!
> > having these choices make mod_perl the best choice i can imagine. thanks
> > everybody!
> >
> > -- end sappy gratitude --
>
> --
> Jacob Davies
> Lead UNIX Engineer
> SF Interactive
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
