What about working with ActiveState? I know they were primarily Windows
focused, but they now have Linux and Solaris versions of Perl pre compiled.
mod_perl can now be gotten to work with the latest ActivePerl build (622) for
Windows.
(thanks to Randy Kobes, or at least I think that is who has pushed for this)
I have to admit that until their compile worked with mod_perl I saw them as
'evil' through the eyes of Perl.
ActiveState (c|w)ould give credibility to the mod_perl from a business
standpoint.
ActiveState also has the new Komodo IDE which is a cross platform IDE for Perl
and Python. It uses the Mozilla engine.
http://www.activestate.com/Corporate/Communications/Releases/Press974947521.html
(for the seperate discussion of GUI interfaces)
Should someone try to form an alliance with ActiveState to insure they don't
ignore mod_perl users or want to be users?
Aaron Johnson
Stas Bekman wrote:
> Well as you've probably figured out, based on the load of email from me,
> I've dropped my last job, in order to finally finish the mod_perl book,
> have some rest and make a push to mod_perl.
>
> Yesterday I've updated the stats page:
> http://perl.apache.org/netcraft/ and the results are so-so, we go down on
> the number of domains. Which I suppose mainly caused by people reading the
> guide and deploying the front-end proxy solution, thus making mod_perl
> un-seen by various scanners like netcraft.
>
> In Paris we couldn't hire a single mod_perl programmer, because people
> don't even know what that. They know a lot about php and ASP. It's true
> that they don't even know what's Perl :(
>
> But, you all know that php pretty much takes over. Why? For two reasons:
> 1) initial corporate pushing (press/ads)
> 2) once well known, the word of the mouth does the rest.
>
> mod_perl lucks the corporate money/PR to get pushed. But we can still work
> on the exposure, which will bring corporate money/PR thru the word of the
> mouth.
>
> Luckily Matt has got sick of waiting for someone to work on the advocacy
> of mod_perl and he has just taken over it. Having a good informational
> site is good, but it's not enough. We need to solve the problem of people
> to find this site and wanting to use mod_perl. Solution? Spreading the
> word.
>
> I see two main streams:
> 1) Online zines.
> 2) Conferences.
>
> I think that we should start working on locating ezines wanting to publish
> mod_perl related articles (preferrably for a fee, to give incentives for
> others to write) and conferences where mod_perl can be relevant. The data
> is to be collected and distributed to the people who wish to advocate
> mod_perl, thru written articles and conference classes. I suppose that we
> will also look for companies who want to order mod_perl classes and find
> the teachers in the appropriate areas.
>
> May be we could organize some certification classes, to give more PR to
> mod_perl.
>
> I suppose that much more can be done. Comments are welcome.
>
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