Thanks to all who replied, I think that I replace the chip with the Tornado as 
soon as funds allow. If it gives a better and smoother torque curve that is 
what I am looking for.

Regards,

Adrian

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On 5 Aug 2012, at 18:37, Allen Core <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Adrian,
> First of all, I would agree with Andy's earlier comments and would just like
> to pass on my experience and opinion on the ECU change. I can't comment on a
> knock sensor.
> Up until July this year I had a standard Morgan system on my 3.9 hotwire
> 97+8, ie ECU, air filter, manifolds, cat and exhaust. I was not 100% happy
> with the general running and acceleration and it was suggested (by someone I
> have great respect for) that the Tornado chip would help to improve this but
> wouldn't give any extra BHP or MPG. I decided to go ahead and had the chip
> replaced,  the result was a definite improvement with a smoother tick over
> and a noticeable improvement to the acceleration in the lower rev range. I
> have no hard facts to back this up, but this is my perception and I should
> also add that SWMBO commented on the better sound of the exhaust on my
> return from having it fitted.
> When the chip was being fitted and checked out on the diagnostic system it
> was noticed that one of my injectors was functioning slightly below par but
> it was nothing significant to worry about. However as we was about to go on
> a tour of the Italian lakes within two weeks I decided to replace all the
> lucas injectors with bosch ones. I believe that this improved the smooth
> running even more and slightly improved the MPG. I should hasten to add that
> the my consumption has improved by about 1 MPG which wouldn't justify the
> cost of replacing injectors alone. We clocked 2.8K miles during our tour of
> the Italian lakes and the overall consumption worked out to be 28.4 MPG. 
> I am now extremely happy with the performance and don't plan to make any
> further changes in the future other than where it's absolutely necessary.
> Incidentally, because there has been no increase in the BHP with this
> upgrade, my insurance has remained the same.
> As to the question "was it worth it"? That is very subject, but to me it
> was. 
> Hope this has been of some help to you.
> Regards,
> Allen  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adrian Slade [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 2:40 PM
> To: mogtalk2
> Subject: [mogtalk2] +8 to chip or not to chip
> 
> Hi
> 
> I am sure this may have been asked before but advise would be appreciated.
> To my 96 3.9L +8 I have fitted librands twin stainless exhausts and
> manifolds, and a K&N filter this has improved performance but I understand
> the engine can run a little lean plus the torque curve can be improved with
> an ECU CHIP change, either Optimax or Tornado. Also I believe that Vauxhall
> knock sensors can be fitted that turn 90 degrees and clear the new
> manifolds.
> 
> Can anyone tell me their experiences with either chips and/or knock sensor
> and what you think. Is it worth it, impact or improvement on fuel etc.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Adrian
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
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