You got it Roger! I judge people by the content of their character, not by
the size of their wallet or the color of their skin.

I have a funny haggling story. 24 year ago, I ran an ad in MCW for some
primo lobby cards (those of you who knew me then knew I was a lobby card
specialist at the time, and wouldn't consider ANY poster!).

The ad came out to those who paid a zillion dollars to have it Fedexed to
them, which meant I didn't have mine yet, because I was a lowly First Class
subscriber.

A super famous dealer, who is still active and will remain nameless, called
me up and asked about a great lobby card I had listed. He said, "Will you
take $250 for it?".

I was amazed because it was listed for $750! I said, "What price are you
looking at?" and he said $325, and I realized that Brian had made a mistake
typesetting, and transposed the price of that card and the one above it,
which should have been $325, but was listed for $750.

I told the dealer what had happened, and that the price was actually $750.
He immediately said, "Well, will you take $600 for it?", and I said yes,
because I didn't want to have to go through the story with lots more
callers.

But I also said, "If you were willing to pay $600, then why did you offer
$250, when you thought you could have bought it for $325 (the listed
price)?" and he replied, "Everybody haggles"!

Another story, this one from my comic book days, back in 1972, when I
co-hosted the first EC Comic book convention, a four day extravaganza that
all the artists and Bill Gaines attended.

I had a bunch of ECs I had decided I no longer wanted, and a collector came
over to my table and pulled out all the best ones, and my prices came to
$220, and he said, "What's the best you can do?"

I didn't want to have to stay by the table the whole show, so I said, "I
will make you a really great deal, and you can have them for $150". He said,
"How about $140?".

Now I KNEW $150 was a really great deal, and it annoyed me he
counter-offered, and I said "I have changed my mind, I won't sell them for
$150 any more."!

He said, OK, "I'll pay it", and I said, "No that was a one-time offer, and
you COULD have taken it, but you didn't, so now the price is $175".

He said, "That's unfair" and I said, "OK, forget the whole thing, and I will
keep them" and he grumbled and said, "I'll pay the $175" and I said I was
just trying to teach him a lesson and I accepted the $150.

I wonder what he did the next time he was presented with a really good deal?

Of course, I was 19 then, and pretty crazy, and I would never do that today!

Bruce

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Roger Kim <roger...@iname.com> wrote:

> Scott,
> I interpreted Bruce's note to be sarcastic. I think it was his way of
> saying that he thinks anyone should feel free to haggle (or make an attempt
> to haggle) whenever they want to at these shows. Of course, that's just my
> interpretation. Maybe he means something else entirely.
>
> -rk
>
>
>  On May 31, 2009, at 12:01 PM, Scott Burns wrote:
>
>   Well, forgive me for being completely out-of-touch with the lifestyles
> of the rich and famous....
>
> I didn't realize it was "poor form" to try to get a better deal. I also
> didn't know there was a dollar threshold that makes haggling "acceptable."
> From what other dealers have told me they DO build wiggle room into all
> prices--even on the less pricey items--knowing people like to bargain.
>
> I'm certainly out of my league with you guys. (read high rollers)
>
> ...and we wonder why we can't get younger (read that, less financially
> solvent) people interested in our hobby...
>
> Sheesh, Franc you certainly have a knack for always saying just the right
> thing. I wanna party with you.
>
> Scott
> MoPo List Owner
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* MoPo List  *On Behalf Of *Bruce Hershenson
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 31, 2009 12:12 PM
>
>  I feel the same way, except my number is $10,000. I can't imagine someone
> haggling over $100, but that's just me.
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* MoPo List*On Behalf Of *Franc
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 31, 2009 8:28 AM
>  I don't haggle unless I'm spending at least $100 at someone's table. I
> just think it's poor form. FRANC
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> *From:* MoPo List 
> [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>]
> *On Behalf Of *Scott Burns
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 30, 2009 8:36 PM
> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Cinevent--No Haggle Zone?
>
> I must have just been unlucky that the dealers having what I wanted to
> buy wouldn't haggle. I thought it odd since it had NEVER happened before. As
> Rich pointed out, he would have haggled...but alas, no items caught my eye
> on his table. Maybe next year Rich!
>
> Personally I don't think it's out-of-line to offer 20 bucks for something
> marked $25. One would assume that dealers build in a bit of wiggle room
> since bargaining seems commonplace, if not expected.
>
> Scott
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* MoPo List  *On Behalf Of *Franc
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 30, 2009 8:21 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Cinevent--No Haggle Zone?
>
> Dealers must have known that I was upset by te smelly rooms, so they
> treated me kindly allowed me to haggle. I didn;t notice any difference this
> year in connection with the pricing and the bargaining. Volume is the key. I
> personally get pissed off when someone wants to buy one $25 item and offers
> me $20 or even $23.  FRANC
>
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