Another "seller" who proves what Claude is saying:

http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/tealzoo

I hope they are not all sold before you guys get to see them!

Bruce

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Brek Anderson <brekanders...@comcast.net>wrote:

> FRANC is right on. As a seller on eBay for almost 10 years I have found no
> certain format (auction, fixed price, or a combo) works all time. One way to
> protect yourself is to start the item at a slightly lower price than you
> think would be a low price with a buy it now price a bit higher than what
> you feel would be a top price. This often kick starts the auction because
> once there is a bid the buy it now goes away. Every now and then someone who
> really wants the item that is a real collector that can afford the slightly
> higher price will buy it now. This can work in the summer months if you are
> concerned and don't want to pay the high reserve fees ebay charges. In the
> fall the standard 99 cent start and let her rip with no reserve is probably
> the best. If it is a rare classic title I don't think the format matters.
>
>
>
> This has worked for me most of the time, but if everybody did the exact
> same it probably wouldn't work. As FRANC said you can't generalize.
>
>
>
> I would also still consider Rich, emovieposter, or Heritage as another
> option.
>
>
>
> Brek
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Franc" <fdav...@verizon.net>
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:45:35 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] ebay poster prices
>
> My advice is not to put stuff on Ebay in the summer months, since sales
> really drop off in July and August. The auction format is not doing as well
> as it did in the days when mmultiple bidders drove up the price of posters
> and lobbies. The fixed price format is probably the way to go, unless you
> want to take a huge risk. Classic titles do best. Mediocre stuff from the
> 50s and 60s doesn't do too well but you can't generalize. FRANC
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> *From:* MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] *On Behalf Of *joel
> katte
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 28, 2009 11:17 PM
> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] ebay poster prices
>
>   MOPOers,
>
> I have not sold many posters on ebay over the last year, but I am
> considering doing so again soon.  Therefore, I found these recent
> discussions fascinating.
>
> Over the last ten years or so, any time I listed an ebay auction I started
> it under $10 with NO RESERVE.  I estimate that 95% of the time I was
> satisfied with the prices they fetched.  Am I hearing that if I was to do
> this again in the next few months, that my satisfaction with the prices
> realized would be drastically different than my past experiences?
>
> Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.  My wife and I
> walked into a pet store last night with the intention of just looking at
> puppies with our daughtsers.  Close to a thousand dollars later, we walked
> out with a cocker spaniel and some fancy toys and food.  I might need to
> sell a few posters to cover the credit card damage.
>
> What posters or genres of posters are still steady?  Anything really sought
> after at this time?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Joel Katte
> ebay ID:  joelkatte
>
>
> --- On *Sun, 6/28/09, Richard Halegua Comic Art <sa...@comic-art.com>*wrote:
>
>
> From: Richard Halegua Comic Art <sa...@comic-art.com>
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] ebay poster prices
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009, 2:07 PM
>
> Dave
>
> you have made a mistake in this post. Heritage does indeed sell items that
> they own. They have a whole warehouse of stuff from which they sell and at
> the Profiles auction they spent a stack of jack for posters to sell. In
> addition they get contacted by people who wish to sell and not wait for
> auction
>
> also, you didn't mention my own 99 cents auctions.
> while I do sell on consignment from only a couple of sources, most of what
> I sell I own. I spend my own money on collections with the intent of selling
> virtually all of it in my auctions. so everyone who sells at auction is not
> a consignment house
>
> Bruce also sells some stuff he owns, or he used to at least. However in
> Bruce's case, his consignments are likely in the 90%+ area
>
> Sean also sells what he owns
>
> now to Claude's basic statement.. He is correct to a great degree that
> there are many sellers who have "pie-in-the-sky" expectations.
>
> here are some of those
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Robin-Hood-1922-Original-Movie-Poster-Half-Sheet-RARE_W0QQitemZ320355952361QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4a96b3e6e9&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A3%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/This-Gun-For-Hire-1942-Orig-Movie-Poster-Arg-1SH-RARE_W0QQitemZ320357604362QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4a96cd1c0a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A3%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/FUNNY-FACE-MOVIE-POSTER-AUDREY-HEPBURN-FRENCH-BRINI-ART_W0QQitemZ130314624035QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1e575b5c23&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A3%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
>
> hilarious price here
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Bullitt-Original-Movie-Poster-Steve-McQueen_W0QQitemZ190317756833QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2c4fd281a1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A3%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
>
> this one is hilarious
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-ELVIS-WILD-IN-THE-COUNTRY-MOVIE-LOBBY-POSTER_W0QQitemZ320389285856QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4a98b087e0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A3%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A2%7C294%3A50
>
> every one of these is priced with nothing to do with reality, especially
> the last 2
>
> then you have the guys like Stuey Holstein whose obvious intent is to find
> people that he can literally sting at levels that generations from now will
> still not get to his prices (he is mostly in comics).
>
> The obvious keyword here is "intent". While Brek is correct that people can
> ask whatever they want, if you want to remain in business for a long time,
> you have to have some contact with reality. I do not like the feeling that I
> have cheated someone and that after they find out what has been done to
> them, they want to shoot me.. There are people who revel in cheating others
> and fleaBay is an obvious showcase of such people
>
> there was a guy selling a Falcon Takes Over 1sh in nice condition. He had
> it at $395 which is like top retail for the title (I need it as  a Raymond
> Chandler piece). It sat on fleaBay for 8 months. I finally offered him $250.
> I never heard from him and the following day it was removed from fleaBay. He
> didn't even askif I would pay $300. (I wouldn';t anyway, but an email would
> have been nice)  the guy was a comic book dealer who bought a load of
> posters from someone and used Jon Warren's price book. So he had all kinds
> of whacked prices. he wasn't looking for pie in teh sky, but the prices were
> all at the top except for those items that had outstripped Warren's price
> guide which was done years earlier. Jon is a dear friend, but his PG was
> non-reality.
>
> There are the innocent fools, and there are those who take everyone for
> fools. Who they are is always obvious to those in the know.
>
> Rich
>
>
>
>
> At 06:42 AM 6/28/2009, Dave Rosen wrote:
>
> I'm not going to defend sellers who ask, as you say, "ridiculous" prices.
> But I will say that comparing them to Bruce or Heritage may be a bit
> apples-and-oranges.
>
> The sellers you refer to (though I don't know specifically who you're
> talking about) are retailers who purchase inventory, then offer it for sale.
> Thus their return has to cover the cost of the item plus overhead before
> they see one penny of profit. Bruce and Heritage are consignment sellers.
> They have overhead, certainly, but do not have cash invested directly in the
> items they sell.
>
> Thus, when they auction stuff off starting at 99-cents or a dollar (really
> $15 in Heritage's case) they are, in a sense, gambling with someone else's
> money, the people who consign their posters to them. There's absolutely
> nothing wrong with that, that's the nature of the business. That's just the
> way consignment works. It means they can start their auctions lower and take
> the risk that the lower starting price will attract more bidders.
>
> It works most of the time, but occasionally items do slip under the radar
> and sell at prices that are much lower than the average market price. Bruce
> and Heritage can afford to take that chance, particularly because they sell
> thousands of posters and are popular online "destinations" and have a client
> base in the thousands. Most other sellers are much smaller and can't
> affordto take that chance.
>
> The other comment I have to make is, if the prices truly are "ridiculous"
> then the items will not sell and the prices will come down. That's market
> economics, I don't have to explain that to you. So your choice is to buy
> somewhere else (if you can find what you want there) and/or wait till the
> price comes down.
>
> It's that simple.
>
> Dave
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: Claude 
> Litton<http://us.mc518.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=twoni...@aol.com>
> To: 
> MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<http://us.mc518.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mop...@listserv.american.edu>
> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 8:55 AM
> Subject: [MOPO] ebay poster prices
>
>
>   I have been searching ebay almost daily since 1997.  My areas of search
> are US originals Pre-1940 through 1960.  I collect mainly posters in the
> upper price brackets.  In the last few years the amount of listings by too
> many sellers with ridiculous prices has proliferated to the point where the
> only thing certain is that not only don't they sell but more and more are
> joining the pack.
>
>   The prices are so high that you can't even make a serious offer because
> it will be so low that they will either ignore you or send you a snide
> retort.  My reaction has been to totally ignore these sellers but it has
> become a nuisance due to the number joining them.  There are some on mopo
> who do this but I am not referring to Todd who uses his million dollar
> posters to get people to look at his other posters for sale.  I am talking
> about those who price all their posters at ridiculous prices.
>
>   I don't even look at ebay daily any longer but wait for Bruce and
> Heritage to offer what I want.  (This is a good opening for Bruce to
> comment.)  I am still trying to understand their motives.  Just look at a
> one sheet of "Three Sons", a poster sold by Bruce for $56 recently and
> priced at 10 times that on ebay.  Let's face reality - People who are going
> to spend $500 and up on a piece of paper will know their item, will research
> it and will be careful about their money.  $20 is an impulse purchase.  $500
> is not.  Can anyone explain these ridiculous sellers' motives?
>
>    CJL
>
>
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