I'm 60 this year. Crikey!
phil
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From: Holiday Russell
To: Phil Edwards
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Wish I was, but I'm 45
Holiday
On Aug 1, 2010, at 9:41 PM, Phil Edwards wrote:
I'd like to poll just to see how many people under 40 are on MOPO.
Phil
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From: Holiday Russell
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I would think, though, that beautiful posters will always be in demand.
Intuitively, there's a point at which the original actor/actress may become
unknown to new generations, but the art will likely remain attractive to those
generations. And, there's the fact that the posters themselves could bring
around new generations to the movies themselves. I can't say how many times
I've come to a great movie because of the poster.
Holiday
On Aug 1, 2010, at 9:12 PM, dialmbb...@aol.com wrote:
Over time, for good posters, new buyers will increase demand and that
will prop up the price I think
the problem with that statement is the new collectors dont know
stanwyck, lancaster, laughton, milland, garfield,
colbert.......................................so many awesome posters that we
seek to buy from the 40s, 50s may lose out. TMC might help avoid these stars
from "dying".
i just bought a beautiful, powerful one sheet: HIGH WALL, 1948 with
robert taylor, audrey totter and herbert marshall. WANT TO POLL PEOPLE UNDER
40 who knows any of those stars?
casablanca, mildred pierce, bogart, bette davis are among those that
will always be sought-after.
michael
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Yeah, I think that's how I feel too. I couldn't do it. Also, the
market can absorb a lot of a good thing. Again, with first edition books,
about 15 years ago, the first two books by a popular writer were remaindered by
a big remainder company. About 300 of each hit the market at once. The
company limited sales of two of each per buyer. The books previously sold for
about 200 each. None were sold other than the remainders for a few years.
Then, while no one noticed, the prices were back to what they used to be.
Over time, for good posters, new buyers will increase demand and that
will prop up the price I think. But, I do agree that the must be let go over a
few years.
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From: James Richard <jrl...@mediabearonline.com>
Date: August 1, 2010 8:41:58 PM EDT
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Reply-To: James Richard <jrl...@mediabearonline.com>
Nah, destroying any old art/collectible that has managed to survive
into the current era is just flat out criminal. But there's no reason not to do
as many on this list have suggested: Keep a couple for yourself and trickle out
the rest very slowly into the market. This is so obvious you'd think everyone
would understand it -- yet I see people on Ebay all the time listing 4 or 5 of
the same item at the same time and calling it "rare" in their descriptions.
And then there's this ever-popular Ebay ploy: An item that is
reasonably scarce (but not truly "rare") sells on Ebay for a decent price
(usually because no one has put one of those particular things up for a month
or two). Suddenly every seller in the world who has the same item immediately
lists it on Ebay within a few days of the first sale -- all of them thinking
they are also going to get the good price, when in fact all they are doing is
guaranteeing they will not. They think they will pick up the second bidder who
missed the first item by only a buck or two? Not if that second bidder suddenly
sees 4 or 5 of the same item turn up right after he lost the first auction.
What he's going to do instead is wipe his brow and say "Whew... lucky I got
outbid on that first auction... I almost paid way too much for one of those."
-- JR
Holiday Russell wrote:
How about keeping a few and destroying the rest? I've known first
edition book dealers that have done this.
Holiday
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From: Richard Evans <evan...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: August 1, 2010 8:14:26 PM EDT
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Subject: Re: [MOPO] PUZZLE: flooding the market
Reply-To: Richard Evans <evan...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Hi, I think the point is that, wrong or not, (as Wolfgang
confirmed), this has happened, in the case of the Peeping Tom quads at least.
I really don't know exactly what happened with The Outlaw 6
sheet(s).
I'm not advocating it, just pointing out that it happens.
On 2 Aug 2010, at 01:04, Ken Farrell wrote:
Hi, I just thought that I would chime on this one...
I think the point is being missed...If all of a sudden you have
75 copies of a rare item, the value is automatically changed by the laws of
supply and demand. Anything you do to control this is some sort of insider
trading. If you lie to numerous people, you are protecting your own interests
at the expense of others. What if you auction one copy and get the record
setting price? All the bidders will feel cheated when the next 74 come up for
sale. You would feel the same.
The deflated value is a reality...these posters should be sold
at an estimated new, readjusted value and all will work out. You just won't
become rich.
Also, once a number of these posters show up, try to convince
the market that there are only 75 in the find. The gossip will fly (75 or 750?)
and the item just might loose all of its value.
I have purchased large quantities of rare items many times over
the years and have sold them for prices related to the find.
Ken
Just Kids Nostalgia
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From: Richard Halegua Comic Art <sa...@comic-art.com>
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At 12:44 PM 8/1/2010, Richard Evans wrote:
>Yes Rich, you describe the best method.
>Alternatively, there's:
>Approach a dealer with your find of perhaps half a dozen max,
>(that's all there is, no really).
>Approach second dealer (that's all there is, no really), third
etc, >etc, etc, and endeavor to get it done as swiftly as possible.
>Change telephone number, move to a nicer house.
the only problem with that Richard is this:
after you call the third dealer, seeing as we all talk to each
other (more or less) it would be pretty fast - maybe just hours - that everyone
would know you have multiples of the items
of course, if you lie to every dealer so you can sell them
fast, I imagine that Guido will be looking for you
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