I'm most definitely NOT under 40.

Richard Del Belso


 



Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 12:13:45 +1000
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Subject: Re: [MOPO] age shall not weary them
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I'm 60 this year. Crikey!
phil
 

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Wish I was, but I'm 45 


Holiday





On Aug 1, 2010, at 9:41 PM, Phil Edwards wrote:


I'd like to poll just to see how many people under 40 are on MOPO.
Phil

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I would think, though, that beautiful posters will always be in demand.  
Intuitively, there's a point at which the original actor/actress may become 
unknown to new generations, but the art will likely remain attractive to those 
generations.  And, there's the fact that the posters themselves could bring 
around new generations to the movies themselves.  I can't say how many times 
I've come to a great movie because of the poster. 


Holiday





On Aug 1, 2010, at 9:12 PM, dialmbb...@aol.com wrote:



Over time, for good posters, new buyers will increase demand and that will prop 
up the price I think
the problem with that statement is the new collectors dont know stanwyck, 
lancaster, laughton, milland, garfield, 
colbert.......................................so many awesome posters that we 
seek to buy from the 40s, 50s may lose out.    TMC might help avoid these stars 
from "dying".
 
i just bought a beautiful, powerful one sheet:  HIGH WALL, 1948 with robert 
taylor, audrey totter and herbert marshall.  WANT TO POLL PEOPLE UNDER 40 who 
knows any of those stars?  
 
casablanca, mildred pierce, bogart, bette davis are among those that will 
always be sought-after.
 
michael





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Yeah, I think that's how I feel too.  I couldn't do it.  Also, the market can 
absorb a lot of a good thing.  Again, with first edition books, about 15 years 
ago, the first two books by a popular writer were remaindered by a big 
remainder company.  About 300 of each hit the market at once.  The company 
limited sales of two of each per buyer.  The books previously sold for about 
200 each.  None were sold other than the remainders for a few years.  Then, 
while no one noticed, the prices were back to what they used to be.


Over time, for good posters, new buyers will increase demand and that will prop 
up the price I think.  But, I do agree that the must be let go over a few years.


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From: James Richard <jrl...@mediabearonline.com>
Date: August 1, 2010 8:41:58 PM EDT
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Reply-To: James Richard <jrl...@mediabearonline.com>




Nah, destroying any old art/collectible that has managed to survive into the 
current era is just flat out criminal. But there's no reason not to do as many 
on this list have suggested: Keep a couple for yourself and trickle out the 
rest very slowly into the market. This is so obvious you'd think everyone would 
understand it -- yet I see people on Ebay all the time listing 4 or 5 of the 
same item at the same time and calling it "rare" in their descriptions. 

And then there's this ever-popular Ebay ploy: An item that is reasonably scarce 
(but not truly "rare") sells on Ebay for a decent price (usually because no one 
has put one of those particular things up for a month or two). Suddenly every 
seller in the world who has the same item immediately lists it on Ebay within a 
few days of the first sale -- all of them thinking they are also going to get 
the good price, when in fact all they are doing is guaranteeing they will not. 
They think they will pick up the second bidder who missed the first item by 
only a buck or two? Not if that second bidder suddenly sees 4 or 5 of the same 
item turn up right after he lost the first auction. What he's going to do 
instead is wipe his brow and say "Whew... lucky I got outbid on that first 
auction... I almost paid way too much for one of those."

-- JR

Holiday Russell wrote: 

How about keeping a few and destroying the rest?  I've known first edition book 
dealers that have done this.  


Holiday


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From: Richard Evans <evan...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: August 1, 2010 8:14:26 PM EDT
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Subject: Re: [MOPO] PUZZLE:  flooding the market
Reply-To: Richard Evans <evan...@blueyonder.co.uk>



Hi, I think the point is that, wrong or not, (as Wolfgang confirmed), this has 
happened, in the case of the Peeping Tom quads at least. 
I really don't know exactly what happened with The Outlaw 6 sheet(s).
I'm not advocating it, just pointing out that it happens.



On 2 Aug 2010, at 01:04, Ken Farrell wrote:

Hi, I just thought that I would chime on this one...

I think the point is being missed...If all of a sudden you have 75 copies of a 
rare item, the value is automatically changed by the laws of supply and demand. 
Anything you do to control this is some sort of insider trading. If you lie to 
numerous people, you are protecting your own interests at the expense of 
others. What if you auction one copy and get the record setting price? All the 
bidders will feel cheated when the next 74 come up for sale. You would feel the 
same. 

The deflated value is a reality...these posters should be sold at an estimated 
new, readjusted value and all will work out. You just won't become rich. 

Also, once a number of these posters show up, try to convince the market that 
there are only 75 in the find. The gossip will fly (75 or 750?) and the item 
just might loose all of its value. 

I have purchased large quantities of rare items many times over the years and 
have sold them for prices related to the find. 

Ken
Just Kids Nostalgia





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From: Richard Halegua Comic Art <sa...@comic-art.com>
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At 12:44 PM 8/1/2010, Richard Evans wrote: 
>Yes Rich, you describe the best method. 
>Alternatively, there's: 
>Approach a dealer with your find of perhaps half a dozen max, >(that's all 
>there is, no really). 
>Approach second dealer (that's all there is, no really), third etc, >etc, etc, 
>and endeavor to get it done as swiftly as possible. 
>Change telephone number, move to a nicer house. 
 
the only problem with that Richard is this: 
after you call the third dealer, seeing as we all talk to each other (more or 
less) it would be pretty fast - maybe just hours - that everyone would know you 
have multiples of the items 
 
of course, if you lie to every dealer so you can sell them fast, I imagine that 
Guido will be looking for you 
 
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