Your last line says it all. Rather than go through the hassle of dealing with a lying, thieving buyer and an unresponsive Ebay and PayPal, I prefer someone like you just pass. That's my choice. FRANC -----Original Message----- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 7:42 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
Franc, I'm not going to play Paypal's advocate here, but their own regulations are pretty clear, as stated below. Also, Paypal does explicitly NOT offer transport insurance, so they won't take any responsibility if a poster is lost in transport. On the other hand, I figure the average Paypal employee is about as well educated as any other callcenter worker, so I seriously doubt that the person who decided about your claim was even fully aware of the actual Paypal rules and regulations. That, of course, is part of the price of doing business with a multi-national trust. I'm not the expert on the USPS postage system, and being in Germany I certainly shouldn't be. All I can say, I'm frequently receiving packages, sent First Class, with a Certificate of Mailing, with a USPS waybill that was quite obviously purchased online and printed at home. Whether this was done directly through USPS or through stamps.com is beyond my knowledge. All I know is, it can be done and if it IS done by the seller, it saves me a lot of money. Be that as may, as I said before: If a seller is working with me on this, I'll bid, if he doesn't, I usually pass. Helmut Am 12.12.2011 um 20:28 schrieb Franc: I don't know if you've ever tried to place a claim with Ebay or PayPal. I have. I had a Customs Tracking number and a postal receipt for International AirMail. Ebay and PayPal would not accept it and insisted on proof of delivery. You can't buy postage on-line from USPS.com for International First Class, only Priority or Express Mail. Nor can one buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line from USPS. I'm not even sure if you can buy one in a post office. Hence some buyers like myself insist on using Priority International, even though we realize it will cut into our sales because of the exorbinant postal fees. FRANC -----Original Message----- From: Helmut Hamm [mailto:texasmu...@web.de] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 10:53 AM To: Franc; mop...@sol03.american.edu Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Franc, here's a copy of the actual Paypal regulations: 4. Proof of shipment. 4.1. General. The payment recipient proofs the shipment of an item by providing an online tracking number of an independent shipping service or a shipping receipt issued by an independent shipping service, which may be uploaded via the PayPal website. In certain cases, providing an online tracking number will not suffice, so the payment recipient will be requested to provide a shipping receipt. They want a proof of SHIPMENT, not a proof of delivery, so the Certificate of Mailing should absolutely suffice. About buying postage online: If I can do it from here, anyone in the US should be able to do it as well. You CAN buy the appropriate postage on the USPS website, but there is one restriction: If your package is 13 oz or more, for so-called 'security reasons' it has to be presented at the post office. (Seeing this restriction makes me once again wonder, whatever happened to the 'land of the free and the home of the brave' but that's a different topic, and it certainly does not belong here.) As you know, I'm also a dealer, and I STILL charge about $10 for a folded poster to any destination worldwide, which barely covers my costs for postage and packing and includes a tracking number. I usually cover transport insurance from my end (through my gallery policy). I consider this part of the costs of doing business, and I DO NOT make my buyers pay for it, regardless actual value. Quite frankly, I FREQUENTLY receive well packed, sometimes expensive lobby cards, well packed, with First Class Mail at a postage cost of under $12. Whenever I see a postage quote of $40 or the like on eBay, I usually don't even bother to bid. Cheers, Helmut Am 12.12.2011 um 16:10 schrieb Franc: Helmut ---- You can not pay for First Class Mail on-line at USPS.com <http://USPS.com/> in the US and to my knowledge you also can't buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line in the US as proof of shipment. Nor so I believe Ebay or PayPal will accept this as proof of shipment because they both insist on proof of delivery. If a US seller ships Ebay sale items overseas the only protection that the US seller will be offerred by Ebay and/or PayPal is through Priority International which tracks delivery and is outrageously expensive. It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority International. I have to insist on it however for all purchases over $150 in value in connection with buyers that I do not know because I have been burned too often by foreign buyers who lie and claim they did not receive my parcels when I have sent them by First Class International Air Mail which does not provide tracking. One such liar based in Italy named Giluvi even had the audacity to turn around and sell the items he claims not to have received from me on Ebay and Ebay would do nothing about it. So Ebay sellers are nopt trying to cheat you when they insist on Priority International Postage. They are only trying to protect themselves from frauds. FRANC -----Original Message----- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:16 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Rich, frankly, if I were to complain about a $5 overcharge in shipping, I could post here every other day. For some reason, a vast number of eBay sellers feel entitled for a $5 to $10 extra for shipping international, sometimes even more. If I were to leave negative feedback for this, I would probably neg about 50% of my eBay sellers. And don't even get me started on the people who insist of shipping International Priority, which has NO advantage for me whatever. If you buy First Class Mail International postage online, you can purchase a Certificate of Mailing for a mere $1.15 or so. This way you have a proof of shipping for Paypal, and everybody could be happy. But no, I HAS to be Priority Mail. Almost anything I buy can be shipped for no more than $12 with First Class, yet I constantly find myself confronted with guys asking $30 and more for Priority Mail. How does an $18 overcharge sound to you? Add the fact, that ANYTHING shipped Priority Mail is inevitably stopped by customs these days, regardless of declared value. So evertime this happens, I go on a three-hour round-trip to pick the darn thing up. How's THAT compared to your $5 loss? Cheers, Helmut Am 11.12.2011 um 21:44 schrieb Richard Halegua Comic Art: so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320802002865> &item=320802002865 his shipping says $8.00 and clearly indicates it will be shipped Priority Mail Package arrives, with the flimsiest of cardboard but amazingly the card got here undamaged however, this moron did not send by Priority mail, he mailed it 1st Class for $1.68. so I send him a message: Buzz two things #1 fortunately the card did not get folded in shipping, but if yuo don't use some sturdy cardboard, you're courtig danger #2 you charged me $8 for Priority Mail shipping and yet you sent it first class for $1.68 I'm expecting a partial refund of my shipping.. $5 will be fine his response: Hello: The shipping is for postage and handling and it was sent expedited. I do not refund postage. thank you. 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