Adrie,


On 03-Nov-16 16:15, Adrie Kintziger wrote:
=>@tuukka

according your own statements  a few converstations back,you did not read
"lila" as a whole or did not read the book to the end,so i have to conclude
that you are in no position to take a philosophical position on it.
But it is some mindtroubling to see you overstep this,in the way you do.
Without reading "lila"first,jumping the hurdle direct to 'lila's child',
and stating that you have questions and remarks regarding the content, is a
bit like say
trying to run the iron man on hawai and you cannot swim,were missing a leg
from birth,and never rode a bicycle before.Not a good idea.


Tuukka:
I didn't realize I should post an announcement on MD that I've read LILA. What was then, was then, what is now, is now.



It is also a bad idea to think that i would confuse lc with lila,i promise
you i won't.
There is a reason why i personally mostly avoid the discussions about Lc,
because most people involved in the project that days are not here anymore.
Discussing their considerations from that period now again without them
would only gain confusion.
Confusion, yes, lila's child itself became as ment to be a clarification,
a clarifusion only, a word salad so to speak and it was not Pirsig who was
to blame.
It became a sort of hashed essay full of plattifications,bodvarism's, amoq's
plusmoq's,metamoq's,....etc,regardless of the efforts that were done.


Tuukka:
That's why I didn't read LC until now.



Ok , i'm going to tune it down a bit,but you can catch my drift,
you are only  trying to jump start another word salad.


Tuukka:
An aficionado of the the first word salad encouraged me to do so. Maybe everyone here wants just salad. Does "salad" include logic? I'd like someone encourage me to tell how I'd modify the MOQ so that the Heinous Quadrilemma wouldn't apply.

Regards,
Tuk

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