Knowing about language from a linguistic point of view helps me understand why so many children have issues with /j/ and /d/ (they are very close in terms of where they are voiced...). But how can you tell an emergent reader to get his mouth ready for the sound as a strategy, when you don't address sounds. And I certainly don't mean one letter at a time or sound by sound, or even to imply that children should not attempt reading before they need sounds... Only that in order to respond to children's needs, we must understand process and how to support children at varying points of difficulty. I am with you, doing sounds is more important than naming them.
Lori On 9/23/07 1:58 PM, "Joy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're getting at what I'm talking about. It is more important that the > student be able to do the sounds than to know what they are called. If they > can read them, and write them, then what's the big deal? > > I also have memories of being moved to a lower group and my mom being called > into a conference in 3rd grade in Wisconsin when I couldn't read the list of > nonsense words (much like the Dibles nonsense word list.) I was trying to make > sense out of what I was reading, and was very confused about what I was > supposed to do. I also had to go for tutoring until the tutor realized I was > reading circles around everyone else. After that I was in my own group where I > wrote plays for the rest of the class to perform. > > Funny, when I was in college they never taught us anything about teaching > phonics! (Remember, I was a nontraditional student just a few years ago.) > > ljackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have any of you read Sandra Wilde's What's a Schwa Sound Anyway? I found it > very helpful in understanding what is and is NOT useful in the teaching of > phonetics, phonics and spelling. And I have distinct memories of being > moved from the top reading group to the middle reading group in second grade > because I didn't understand the schwa sound (still don't, by the way). I > read it because the title spoke to me, but I think it should be, "Who the > He?? Cares About the Schwa Sound?" > > Lori > > > On 9/23/07 8:28 AM, "Carol" wrote: > >> I never got phonics until I had to teach phonics--even now 20 years later I >> have to sound out a word first to get to the isolated sound. That's why I >> teach 4th. Read in the paper this morning that Bill Gates is really pushing >> phonics for early reading programs. What happened to balance? >> Carol/RI/gr 4 >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 9:05 AM >> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] spelling lists >> >> >> >> In a message dated 9/22/2007 9:52:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> writes: >> >> Having said that, last year at my school we were >> presented with a great deal of research that stated that it was essential >> that >> children in grades k-2 are explicitely taught phonics in a systematic way, >> teaching each phoneme at a time. >> >> >> Cami, >> >> This is exactly why I would never go below third grade. There is also some >> researchers who believe that the only children who "get" phonics are those >> that can already read. >> >> Rosie >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. >> -- Lori Jackson District Literacy Coach & Mentor Todd County School District Box 87 Mission SD 57555 http:www.tcsdk12.org ph. 605.856.2211 Literacies for All Summer Institute July 17-20. 2008 Tucson, Arizona _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
