I can't believe HM calls this phonics!  Paul McKee must be spinning in his 
grave!!
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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:21:27 
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Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] phonics question- 2nd grade teacher


Rosie, you are right, it's not phonics . I have to use HM, too. Those pieces 
of language that we mostly focus on: roots, endings, prefixes, suffixes, 
compound words, etc. in 3rd, 4th , 5th are officially called "structural 
analysis" and aren't technically phonics, but go hand in hand with phonics 
once the students have the basics of phonics down. Structural analysis 
contributes to improving vocabulary and reading fluency in the upper elem. 
grades.

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Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] phonics question- 2nd grade teacher


>I am required to use the HM reading series.  At grade level 4 what they 
>call phonics is not what I consider phonics.  For instance ...base words, 
>suffixes, contractions, word roots, and homophones.  In my mind this is not 
>phonics,  I would call this word work.
>
> Rosie
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> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
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> Phonic Instruction should be in all grades through grade 6.. and when done
> effectively will impact students reading when continued through grade 8...
> Spelling skills are increased -- word recognition and retention, as well 
> as
> meaning are impacted. Look through the research. You will find that 
> phonics is
> most effective when taught with direct explicit instruction - and then 
> taken
> right into the text. Lesson on the spelling and formation of the mouth and 
> sound
> plus as students are older and you add affixes they directly change the
> meanings. Phonics instruction at upper grades also allows the student to 
> look at
> language origins. But, again -- each time there is instruction in phonics 
> you
> must locate it in the book or passage you are reading and discuss it in 
> context.
> That's where students make the connection between reading is writing -- 
> writing
> is for reading and spelling it appropriately makes it readable!
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> of
> Jeanne Garringer
> Sent: Wed 7/22/2009 7:42 AM
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> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] phonics question- 2nd grade teacher
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>      I have taught for 18 years in either grades K or 1, and I am a real
> proponent of systematic phonics instruction as providing a solid base of
> letter/sound representation in terms of decoding strategies for beginning
> readers.  Please check out the National Reading Panel's findings in the 
> area of
> phonics.  The information is very comprehensive and serves as a good 
> rationale
> in terms of a research base for using phonics instruction in your 
> classroom.
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>     Now in terms of "do all children need phonics?", not all children 
> learn in
> the same fashion, so I would advocate a more "balanced" approach that 
> would
> include whole language instruction as well as the phonics.  Afterall, our 
> goal
> is for every word to eventually become a sight word.  I have found that 
> phonics
> instruction is most helpful for my students that struggle; however, my 
> stronger
> readers use phonics skills to help them decode more difficult words and 
> when
> they are writing to help them spell words.
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>      The bottom line is "gaining meaning" from text.  Children can decode 
> words
> all day, but if they aren't gaining meaning from what they are reading, 
> then
> technically they are not "reading".  So yes, teach phonics along side 
> other word
> recognition strategies in order to catch all readers.  Make sure that 
> these
> skills are taught and applied in context of real text.  Decodeable phoncis 
> texts
> tend to be boring and have very little plot.  The children don't like them
> either.
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>      You say that you teach 2nd grade so if your K and 1st grade teachers 
> have
> provided your children with a solid reading base (including phonics), you 
> can
> focus more fully on teaching the comprehension strategies such as those 
> outlined
> in Mosaic of Thought.  I hope this helps.
>
> Jeanne Garringer
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>> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:06:36 +0000
>> From: swill...@comcast.net
>> To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
>> Subject: [MOSAIC] phonics question- 2nd grade teacher
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>> Hello All,
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>> I'm a second grade school teacher.  Throughout my time in school the
> great
> phonics controversy has popped up more than once.  I would like your take 
> on the
> topic.  Do all children need to be taught phonics?  Why or why not?
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>> Thank you,
>>
>> 2nd grade School Teacher
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