Patrick Gallagher wrote:
> jukola wrote:
> 
>> Patrick Gallagher wrote:
>>
>>> jukola wrote:
>>>
>>>> Christian Biesinger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ado beith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I just downloaded mozilla 0.9.9 and installed it. But it crashes as
>>>>>> soon as I load the browser up
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you get a "Talkback Window", asking you to send in crash 
>>>>> information?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why would anyone send in "Talkback Information"?
>>>>
>>>> This "talkback" does not only send the information about what 
>>>> happened just before the crash but also detailed information about 
>>>> your computer and what's connected to it.
>>>>
>>>> Even if you unclick the unneccesary parts of the "talkback" 
>>>> information this "customised" version of "talkback" is not stored 
>>>> but you have to do it each and every time you send "talkback" 
>>>> information. "Talkback" is talking back....
>>>>
>>>> I have abolished "talkback" long ago. It's a "NO" each and every 
>>>> time a crash has happened and the question whether or not to send a 
>>>> "talkback" is presented.
>>>>
>>> IF you're not willing to offer information about crashes to help 
>>> build moz into a great and stable platform, why would you run it? The 
>>> main purpose of using moz is (supposed to be) testing, and providing 
>>> feedback that can assist in the development process - this is why the 
>>> binaries are provided int he first place, isn't it?
>>>
>>
>> I'm more than willing to offer information about crashes contributed 
>> to Mozilla.
>>
>> I'm though not willing to give away detailed information about my 
>> present computer; type of processor, speed, the software I'm using, 
>> what printer I have etc. and so on. This has nothing to do with the 
>> behaviour of Mozilla during crashes. Mozilla is a software, "talkback" 
>> should not be concerned about what printer I'm using, only of it's own 
>> drawbacks.
>>
> But the talkbalk sends back information on what Mozilla was doing and 
> the environmental variables that were affecting it at the time. This 
> type of information ensures that moz will perform up to par on different 
> types of systems, with different types of hardware and software. It 
> doesn't send information on who you are, just the things that affect 
> mozilla's operation, and interoperate with moz.
> 

The "drawback" doesn't only send information that is necessary to send 
about the crash itself. It send also information about the printer I'm 
using. Why? A software, which is used to browse the internet, should not 
be concerned of that, should it?

Is Mozilla's operations dependant on the name of my computer? If it has, 
I would say "Houston, we have a problem". What happens with Mozilla if I 
decide to change the name of my computer? Would it die? 0.9.9 is then 
the last revision we'll ever see?

-- 
jukola


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