FYI, I just posted a reply including three screenshots, but it got routed
to the moderation queue for veing slightly over the 40 KB limit...
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Marc Sabatella <marcsabate...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> If one ttf is worth a thousand words, what are three PNG's worth? :-) I
> think these will clarify *what* I am seeing, but doesn't completely answer
> *why* I see it or *what to do* about it.
>
> Here is how Miwarre's FreeSerif and FreeSans look in MuseScore on my
> Ubuntu 14.04 system with Qt 5.4:
>
>
> If that's not "no kerning at all", it's pretty close. I see no obvious
> kerning in "Te", "rj", or "VA" in either font.
>
> Whereas here is how it looks with my versions:
>
>
> All three pairs kern very noticeably in both FreeSerif and FreeSans in my
> versions. And this is what has set my expectations for how the kerning
> could potentially look.
>
> Now, as I trace my steps, I am somewhat mystified by what I am seeing here
> in my version. I would have sworn I had downloaded the most recent SFD
> files from ftp.gnu.org. But as I look into this, it seems I actually got
> a much older version. And in fact we already *are* using the most recent
> versions in our own Git repository. So Miwarre's are actually built from
> the latest sources; mine apparently are not. And if I built from the
> latest sources with OpenType *off*, I get the results I apparently am
> "meant" to get:
>
>
> This is somewhere between the completely unkerned look of Miwarre's
> versions and the fully kerned look of my previous versions. Here, the "rj"
> kerns as expected (at least for FreeSerif), and I guess I get the very
> slight kerning of VA as well. None to speak of in "Te", although it does
> somehow look tighter in my FreeSerif version, like maybe different bearings
> or something. Or maybe that's an illusion.
>
> Loading the correct (latest) SFD into FontForge, I can verify ne aspect of
> what Miwarre says - there is no kerning at all for "Te", and very little
> for "VA". Whereas with the older sources I had accidentally downloaded,
> there was pretty significant kerning - a value of -86 for that "Te", for
> example.
>
> The bottom line for me is still that I still get kerning with OpenType
> turned *off* but don't get it with it turned *on*. I just don't get as
> much kerning as I'd like ever with OpenType *off* - apparently because,
> indeed, the info just isn't there in the SFD for some reason, even though
> it was present in older sources.
>
> Hopefully this clarifies my concerns. I guess it's not our problem if for
> some reason Gnu removed a bunch of the kerning info that was present in
> older versions of these fonts, but I do still think we need to build TTF's
> with OpenType *off* for Linux and Windows in order to get whatever kerning
> there is to work under Qt 5.4.
>
> Marc
>
>
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