On 6/19/06, Don Redman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:15:19 +0200, Bogdan Butnaru wrote:
> On 6/19/06, Chris Bransden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> by saying that "all
>> indentically named tracks are indenticle in contet" you require users
>> to have heard all instances of the track in question.
>
> It's not a bijection, it's an injection from tracks to titles. It
> means that "one song" (the exact same version) should (almost always)
> have a single title. There can be multiple versions with the same
> title (though that's usually avoided using version info; each song
> should have exactly one "title+version info" pair, though the version
> info can be empty for some, preferably only one).
There is no entity in the MusicBrainz database representing "songs".
I think that is the flaw in this argument. Yes, if there was an entity
representing a song, then it would be a good idea to have only one name
for this entity (indeed it would be stupid to give one entity several
names). But *there is no such entity*! There is only an entity that
represents tracks.
So, please do not write "song" when you should write "track".
For more details please read ObjectModel on the wiki.
A track is always on an album. If you force the title of two tracks to be
identical if the tracks are based on the same song, then you force editors
to remove all information from the track title that is contextually
relevant to one release only. This is what the debate is about.
IMO it is a very bad idea to force an entity to semantically represent
something which differs considerably from its structural role in the
relational database.
DonRedman
Perhaps this is what is wrong with MB. I've pictured compiling a
"pool" of Songs an Artist has recorded. Each has an official Title
and is released on several Releases with varying Attributes. I think
this would help us keep things tidy, by only having one Title for each
Song. I think we sort of discussed this about adding Classical
recordings and being able to select the works on the recording from a
list of works the author has written.
Anyways, maybe that's coming in the new version... some day.
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