Kerensky97 wrote:
And I agree with Gecks that that disclamier might be a little more than is needed; hopefully people realize that as a transl(iter)ation it should be identical to the other release just with different words in the tracks and title.
I don't think that's what Gecks meant. He said it should not only be allowed for identical tracklistings (apart from transl(iter)ation), but also for tracklistings with bonus tracks or another track order. Here we have to be careful. How will NGS use this relationship and how will it use remaster relationships? Well, when we run the initial conversion to a new schema, it will observe relationships such as remaster and automatically create a release group in which it puts both. Apart from that, the relationships and releases stay untouched. When it encounters a transl-AR, it should check the release status: if both are official, put them in one release group and leave them as they are. If one is virtual/alternate/... and the other official, and the relationship points in the right direction (else someone made a mistake :)), then merge the virtual one into the official one and append the tracklisting as alternate titles. So if we allow this AR to be used for tracklistings which are different in the track order or have bonus tracks, then only for linking two official releases. A "virtual" release which is not about the exact same tracks should never be linked to an official release, because that can create wrong merging results when transforming the data to NGS! You might say, why should someone create a virtual release with a different track order? Well that perhaps not but consider this case: There's album A with 10 tracks and there's album B with 13 tracks which is just another edition of A with bonus tracks. Now you can have a transliteration A* of A and a transliteration B* of B. Imagine we just have A and B* in the database (because noone could find the original tracklisting of B yet but only a transliteration). Someone might think: oh, it's surely ok to create a relationship "A is the original language/script track listing of B*", one is official, one is virtual, they are almost about the same tracks, can't be bad. But that would be a big mistake. So I think a disclaimer for that case is needed. Simon (Shepard) _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
