On Sat, 2010-12-04 at 21:03 +0100, Nikki wrote: > The other thing (and this is more a question for Calvin ;)), if > instrumental and karaoke are separate, should a Japanese > karaoke/instrumental track that's completely instrumental still use > "karaoke"*? I would hope so, since I don't want to have to listen to > every single track just to find out whether backing vocals were left in > or not before I can add a relationship... > > * not including those where there is a distinction between karaoke and > instrumental of course
I don't really have any set rules on how I've been handling this, and at the moment it relies on listening to the tracks, but here goes: The specific thing that I use to identify a karaoke track is that the vocal melody line has been removed; but has not been replaced with anything else. This leaves the song feeling incomplete. An instrumental version is typically a slightly altered arrangement, with at the very least an instrumental portion replacing the vocal melody. An example of both versions shows up in http://musicbrainz.org/release/a9f14b0f-634a-42af-8fbd-0bf9ff636da6.html where track 5 is a karaoke version of track 1 (The only change is the removal of lead vocals). However, track 4 is actually an instrumental version of track 2, where the vocal melody has been replaced. They do credit them differently, at least. One thing I think is that any proposed relation should be general enough to handle a few more interesting cases, e.g. the first 4 tracks of http://musicbrainz.org/release/60bfbf7c-fbc1-4c32-b9e0-d6164530706a.html Which have one of the /instruments/ removed from the track with the intention that you could play along. (Sheet music for the track was included), or http://musicbrainz.org/release/66e18211-0675-42dc-b128-2a09575a9791.html Where each of the tracks removes the contribution of one person from the mix; vocals, guitar, drums, etc. -- kepstin Calvin Walton <calvin.wal...@gmail.com> _______________________________________________ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
