On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Andii Hughes <gnu_and...@member.fsf.org>wrote:
> On 18 July 2011 10:19, SwissChris <swissch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > There seem to be several unresolved questions here we should try to > address > > separately: > > > > 1. How does "as on cover" (on track/release level) ideally translate into > > NGS structures? > > For an album by artist Foo with a track Quux featuring artist Bar: > > A) [track] Quux (feat. Bar) [Artist Credit] Foo (as we had pre-NGS) or > > B) [track] Quux [Artist Credit] Foo feat. Bar (using the NGS multiple > artist > > feature, with the link phrase exactly "as on cover") ? > > Either or neither may be as on the cover, because we don't know what's > on the cover. > > > 2. How should the featured artists ideally be treated on the (normalized) > > recording level? > > Assuming there is consensus that "feat."-information should not be part > of > > the title field at recording level: > > A) [Artist Credit] Foo & Bar (as by default) > > B) [Artist Credit] Foo feat. Bar (assuming "feat." has a specific > different > > meaning, not to be normalized to "&") > > The second is correct. The first is a collaboration, not a featured > artist. > > > 3. Do we want/need a delay on application of (part of) these ideal rules, > > once agreed upon, because of the ws/1 issue? > > It seems I'm alone in wanting track list changes delayed, even though there > is still very little NGS support. > > > 4. Do any or all of the above rules apply only to the exact wording > "feat." > > (or featuring, features) or would it also affect (how?) other link terms > (in > > other languages) like "with", "en duo avec", "con" > > We should normalise to feat. where appropriate at recording level. > > > The guideline should IMO reflect the "ideal" regulations, with a warning > box > > for not yet to be used features because of ws/1 compatibility issues, > which > > could be removed (without further debate) when it's no longer used. > > That sounds sensible, but I'm not sure if it wouldn't be too confusing. > I also have no idea what's wanted as track level; just 'follow the cover'? > Well, this is exactly my first point: If the cover spells a track as "Quux (feat. Bar)" should "follow the cover" be: A) [track] Quux (feat. Bar) [Artist Credit] Foo (as we had pre-NGS) or B) [track] Quux [Artist Credit] Foo feat. Bar (using the NGS multiple artist feature, with the link phrase exactly "as on cover") ? > > Chris/chabreyflint > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > MusicBrainz-style mailing list > > MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org > > http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style > > > > > > -- > Andii :-) > > _______________________________________________ > MusicBrainz-style mailing list > MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org > http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style >
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