On 01/28/2011 03:03 PM, Greg Ward wrote: > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Max Kellermann<m...@duempel.org> wrote: >> On 2011/01/28 09:52, Sean McNamara<smc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> The only problem is that mpd itself would be completely unaware of >>> this external daemon's existence, and as such, would not (could not) >>> provide any management service for it (i.e. stopping and starting it, >>> or configuring it). If the goal is not to touch the mpd core, then the >>> most logical way to ease end-user management of said daemon would be >>> to integrate it as a plugin into the most popular mpd clients. They'd >>> have to make a separate TCP connection to the playlist workflow >>> daemon. >> This is where an idea steps in I had a while ago: >> >> Problem: mpdscribble should be able to send the "loved song" flag to >> last.fm. However mpdscribble itself is a daemon and the user cannot >> interact with it. >> >> Solution: allow mpd clients to communicate with each others over the >> mpd protocol: > Very neat. This is something I've been mulling over recently too: how > do I add very precise, specific, peculiar user-driven features to mpd > without bloating the core? E.g. I want features like "stop at the end > of this song" or "I have to leave the house in 25 minutes, so pick > just enough random songs to fill that time and start playing" or "fade > out and pause, then rewind 5 sec and fade in when I unpause". All of > those are just features that I happen to think digital music players > ought to offer. I'm perfectly capable of implementing them myself > using the Python mpd client library, but then they're locked in their > own little universe -- I have to run a different client alongside GMPC > or Sonata or whatever. (Or I have to open a command-line window and > do it there, but that's conceptually the same thing.) Or I could hack > them into GMPC and build my own copy, but what if I decide I'd rather > use Sonata? Or I could hack them into mpd as core features for my own > use, but of course you would never accept those patches. And rightly > so. > > A dedicated daemon for my goofy mpd features doesn't solve the whole > problem though: I still have to convince GMPC, Sonata, and the rest of > the world to give me a GUI to my custom daemon. That's not gonna > happen. >
>> mpd could support listing the keywords that clients have subscribed >> to; so gmpc could hide the heart button when there is no scrobbler. >> Each time a new client subscribes or unsubscribes, mpd broadcasts the >> "subscription" idle event to all clients. > Even better: make it so GUI clients can discover "custom actions" > supported by "daemon" clients. E.g. if > Greg's-custom-mpd-controller-daemon offers a "fade out and pause" > action, then GMPC could have a "fade out and pause" button somewhere > in its GUI. It's much harder if the action requires user input (how > many minutes until I have to leave the house?), but there are plenty > of interesting things that could be done with a "just hit the button > to execute the action" interface. > > Greg exactly just make a system that allows GMPC or whatever discover what functionality is offered. If you do it write, you can even pass an url (or whatever) where gmpc can donwload a UI description file and present that to the user. I would implement this in GMPC, if the day comes. It would be perfect for my small Metadata daemon. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d > _______________________________________________ > Musicpd-dev-team mailing list > Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team -- "One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision." - Bertrand Russell (1872-1970) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d _______________________________________________ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
