Rocco --

...and then Rocco Rutte said...
% 
% Hi,

Hello again!


% 
% * David T-G [05/16/02 18:03:06 CEST] wrote:
% > ...and then Rocco Rutte said...
...
% > % More correctly, he should be abled to use his ISP's relay
% > % rather then relaying on his own, yes. I'm quite sure that
% 
% > Right.  So, having still not heard back from him(!!),
% 
% It doesn't match the subject anymore, but I hate mutt for not
% syncing my mailboxes with the output from my $display_filter.

Why?  That's what the filter is for; if you want to change the message,
then you should 'e'dit it and pass it through your filter somehow.
Note that it's up to you to figure out how you should implement this in
a transparent manner ;-)


% I look at your mail within mutt and see nothing special; so I
% reply and suddenly see multiple exclamation marks (which were

Sorry, dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  There, is that better??????????


% shortened to 1 by $display_filter)... ;-) (just a side note)

You had me lost there for a minute.  You might still :-)


% 
% > Unfortunately, if he is at a low-ball ISP that cuts services *and* that
% > ISP happens to be on the DUL, then he probably has no option but to
% > switch ISPs, since that's probably as cost-effective as finding someone
% > who will let him relay.
% 
% Yes and no. Some freemail providers also offer POP-before-SMTP

Hey, cool.  I would *love* to find one of those.  Do you know of a list?


% which means that he has to find out how long his IP is cached.
% For example, if this time limit is 15 minutes, just set up a

Right.


% cron job which runs fetchmail every 10 minutes and point
% postfix (or whatever) to the freemail provider's relay. It
% will then always work if the internet connection works.

Yep.  That's just the sort of thing I'd need for a couple of users I
have.


% 
% > Sometimes not even "low"; not only does Juno, for instance, not provide a
% > relay, but neither does AOL (but we probably wouldn't want them to! :-)
% 
% I don't know any providers over at your location which doesn't
% matter. But AOL users may send mail, too with the access
% software (which is probably not pppd ;-) so I guess that

No, it sure ain't.  I had to check into this in some detail recently,
and the lowdown is that the only way to send mail out through AOL is to
use their mailer.  No, they don't block port 25, but they don't offer
anything that listens to it, ether.


% there's no need for a relay since dial-up users may be
% authenticated by their line (and thus do not need any special
% account).

Right.  AIUI that's how many ISPs do their dialup relaying since
it's so much faster to check the address than to bother with actual
authentication.


% 
% Cheers, Rocco.


HAND

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