Perhaps, along with the 'Please check the manual' message at the end of all
messages, there should be a reference to a reliable archive, allowing list
users who are referred to the archive an easy way of finding it!

Quentin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Fitzgerald [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 12:29 PM
> To:   Carlos Corzo; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: Lazy
> 
> Some people have looked at the manual's, yes, and it's pretty simple to
> determine when they have.  If the question they ask can be copied/pasted
> into the mysql documention search and get the answer, then the person has
> not checked the documentation.  Sometimes people miss things in the
> documentation, this is ok also.  However, most of the time, people just
> don't LOOK at the documentation.  I see the same questions asked over and
> over again on this list, and most of the time the answers given are quotes
> from the documentation, and the people accept those answers.
> 
> The MySQL manual is written very well IMHO (and there's no bias here, I am
> in no way connected to the MySQL dev team except as an end user).  Perhaps
> if you find a section hard to read, maybe bring that up?  I'm sure the
> maintainers of the manual hang out on here (I believe Sasha is one), and I
> also don't think I'm far off in thinking they would love to have
> suggestions
> on how to improve the manual.  Then again you could just purchase a
> support
> license or even get a MySQL book (several good ones out there), try to get
> one that concentrates on MySQL and the programming language of your
> choice.
> 
> The intelligent comment isn't acurate though.  I think the problem here is
> more the people who refuse to look for themselves to find the answers, and
> instead just bring the question directly to the list (some subscribing
> just
> long enough to post).  This list's subscribers probably varies greatly in
> users experience/knowledge.  I myself am only 20 years old and don't have
> the experience of others.  But when I bring a question to the list, I try
> to
> make sure I've exhausted every avenue I have myself for finding the
> answer.
> Simply because the others on this list have things to do on their own
> time,
> and don't need to be troubled by a question I have.
> 
> To sum up, if you have a hard time figuring things out, and need to ask a
> question, that's fine with me.  However, if you simply don't want to take
> the time to look and want to fire off a quick E-Mail to the list asking a
> question that is very clearly answered in the manual, then I think your
> being inconsiderate of others.
> 
> Eric Fitzgerald
> Server Administrator
> AMN Television Marketing
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carlos Corzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 2:58 PM
> Subject: Lazy
> 
> 
> > Some people have tried the manuals verbatim but are really confused
> > because they are not at your intellectual level.  If this list is for
> > the "intelligent only", change the title please.  Not everyone can
> > decipher a manual.  I may post questions but there are reasons for
> > them.  My time is just as valuable as yours.
> >
> > take care.
> >
> >
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