On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 23:34:49 +0200
Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:00:12 -0500, Josh Trutwin wrote:
> > 
> > One area where MySQL beat Postgres is in Windows installation. 
> > Installing postgres on Windohs is like pulling your fingernails
> > off slowly.
> 
> It is more like following the manual. Not hard, you just have to
> take it one step at a time.

I should point out that I haven't used the compile-from-source method that's in the 
documentation, which like you said looks pretty simple.  I can get postgres running in 
a cygwin env pretty easilly, but getting it to automatically start/stop as a service 
is usually the painful part.  I've used this as a bonus exercise for students in a 
dbms course I teach and their conclusion is the same.  

I think this complaint will fall away soon though with PG 8.x.  FWIW, PG on *nix is 
just the opposite, very clean and simple install.

> > MySQL's command line interface and programming API also are nicer
> > for newer users.  Why in the world do I need to remember to type
> > "\d" to show my tables?
> 
> Why in the world do I need to remember SHOW TABLES? Why can't the
> standard information schema work?
> :-)

Ah, because SHOW TABLES and "exit" or "quit" makes sense and is easy to remember vs. 
\d \q \whatever.  I like the \d because once you know it it's dang quick to type, but 
it's nice to have the longer format as well.  Whatever, to each their own...

> Command line interface and programming API are pretty much
> irrelevant if you are using ColdFusion. It is all abstracted out
> behind a JDBC API (ColdFusion is still at JDC 2), which in turn is
> behind ColdFusion's API, so unless you go the way of the Java ninja
> you can't even reach it.

Ok.  Command line interface and programming API are never truely irrelevent IMHO.  :)

I said it before, I like em both, use em both and have rubs with both of em.  Is one 
"better" than the other?  Yes and No.

Thanks,

Josh


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