not really

* it is unlikely that you have 1:4 relations key/data
* you have sql-statement overhead even for tinyint 1
* you have overhead to escape data

Am 16.02.2013 00:55, schrieb Akshay Suryavanshi:
> Harald,
> 
> I somewhat dont agree with your statement of mysqldump backup size being way 
> bigger than the actual datasets, just
> beacuse its SQL plain text. What I can tell you is, mysqldump files would be 
> significantly smaller than the total
> dataset size, because it doesnt contain "index data". So, if out of 400G, 
> 100G is index data then the dump file
> should be 300G.
> 
> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 4:24 AM, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net 
> <mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net>> wrote:
> 
>     "our database is 400 GB, mysqldump is 600MB" was not a typo and you
>     honestly believed that you can import this dump to somewhat?
> 
>     WTF - as admin you should be able to see if the things in front
>     of you are theoretically possible before your start any action
>     and 1:400 is impossible, specially because mysql-dumps are
>     ALWAYS WAY LARGER then the databasses because they contain
>     sql-statements and not only data
> 
>     Am 15.02.2013 23:37, schrieb Mike Franon:
>     > Your right I am going to run another mysqldump, maybe something
>     > happened and pick this up next week..
>     >
>     > Thanks all.
>     >
>     > On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Keith Murphy <bmur...@paragon-cs.com 
> <mailto:bmur...@paragon-cs.com>> wrote:
>     >> Something doesn't add up. If the data set is 400 GB then your dump has 
> to
>     >> bigger than 600 mb. That is better than a 400:1 ratio. Maybe the dump 
> isn't
>     >> working correctly or your data set is much smaller? If the dump output 
> is
>     >> less than a gig I would just edit it with something like vi and look 
> at the
>     >> offending line.
>     >>
>     >> Keith
>     >>
>     >> On Feb 15, 2013 3:55 PM, "Mike Franon" <kongfra...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:kongfra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>> I am having a real hard time upgrading just from 5.0.96 to 5.1
>     >>>
>     >>> I did a full mysqldump and then restore the database, keep in mind our
>     >>> database is 400 GB, mysqldump is 600MB file, about 30 minutes into the
>     >>> restore get this error on one table on an insert:
>     >>>
>     >>> ERROR 1064 (42000) at line 1388: You have an error in your SQL syntax;
>     >>> check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the
>     >>> right syntax to use near ''2010-04-10 20' at line 1
>     >>>
>     >>> It weird because If I upgrade 5.1 right over 5.0 without doing a
>     >>> mysqldump, and then do a mysqlcheck it works, except for 5 tables, and
>     >>> triggers, so trying to think of the best way to get to 5.1
>     >>>
>     >>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Keith Murphy 
> <bmur...@paragon-cs.com <mailto:bmur...@paragon-cs.com>>
>     >>> wrote:
>     >>>> While it might be GA I would not recommend that you deploy it for a
>     >>>> while.
>     >>>> ... at least several point releases. There will be new bugs 
> uncovered as
>     >>>> it
>     >>>> moves out to a wider audience.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Upgrade to 5.5 (through 5.1) first as it is quite proven. Slave 5.6 
> off
>     >>>> it
>     >>>> and test. Be patient. Save yourself some heartache. Just my two 
> cents.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Keith
>     >>>>
>     >>>> On Feb 15, 2013 9:27 AM, "Mike Franon" <kongfra...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:kongfra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Thanks everyone for suggestions.
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> I am doing this on a test box  with a copy of our db before doing 
> this
>     >>>>> on production db servers.
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> I just upgraded from 5.0 to 5.1, and ran mysql_upgrade
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> and see I have a few tables with the following error:
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> error    : Table upgrade required. Please do "REPAIR TABLE
>     >>>>> `tablename`" or dump/reload to fix it!
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> I got this on 4 tables so far, but it still checking, my database is
>     >>>>> huge so might be a while.
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> The question I have what is the best way to fix this?
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> To install all I did was remove all of the 5.0, and then did a yum
>     >>>>> install 5.1 on my AWS machine.  and then just started mysql.
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Should I instead do a complete mysqldump, and use that instead?
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Rick James <rja...@yahoo-inc.com 
> <mailto:rja...@yahoo-inc.com>>
>     >>>>> wrote:
>     >>>>>> Sounds like something that, once discovered, can be fixed in the 
> old
>     >>>>>> version
>     >>>>>> -- then it works correctly in both.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> That is what happened with a 4.0->5.1 conversion years ago.  With
>     >>>>>> 1000
>     >>>>>> different tables and associated code, we encountered two
>     >>>>>> incompatibilities.
>     >>>>>> One had to do with NULLs, the other with precedence of commajoin vs
>     >>>>>> explicit
>     >>>>>> JOIN.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> From: Singer Wang [mailto:w...@singerwang.com 
> <mailto:w...@singerwang.com>]
>     >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:41 PM
>     >>>>>> To: Rick James
>     >>>>>> Cc: Mihail Manolov; Mike Franon; Akshay Suryavanshi;
>     >>>>>> <mysql@lists.mysql.com <mailto:mysql@lists.mysql.com>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Subject: Re: Upgrading form mysql 5.0.90 to 5.5 or 5.6
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Its a very pedantic case, but we had a few instances where it was 
> an
>     >>>>>> issue
>     >>>>>> at my last job. It basically involved multi-table deletes and
>     >>>>>> aliasing..
>     >>>>>> I
>     >>>>>> quote the change notes for MySQL 5.5.3
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Incompatible Change: Several changes were made to alias resolution 
> in
>     >>>>>> multiple-table DELETE statements so that it is no longer possible 
> to
>     >>>>>> have
>     >>>>>> inconsistent or ambiguous table aliases.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> §  In MySQL 5.1.23, alias declarations outside the table_references
>     >>>>>> part
>     >>>>>> of
>     >>>>>> the statement were disallowed for theUSING variant of 
> multiple-table
>     >>>>>> DELETE
>     >>>>>> syntax, to reduce the possibility of ambiguous aliases that could
>     >>>>>> lead
>     >>>>>> to
>     >>>>>> ambiguous statements that have unexpected results such as deleting
>     >>>>>> rows
>     >>>>>> from
>     >>>>>> the wrong table.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Now alias declarations outside table_references are disallowed for
>     >>>>>> all
>     >>>>>> multiple-table DELETE statements. Alias declarations are permitted
>     >>>>>> only
>     >>>>>> in
>     >>>>>> the table_references part.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Incorrect:
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> DELETE FROM t1 AS a2 USING t1 AS a1 INNER JOIN t2 AS a2;
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> DELETE t1 AS a2 FROM t1 AS a1 INNER JOIN t2 AS a2;
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Correct:
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> DELETE FROM t1 USING t1 AS a1 INNER JOIN t2 AS a2;
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> DELETE t1 FROM t1 AS a1 INNER JOIN t2 AS a2;
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> §  Previously, for alias references in the list of tables from 
> which
>     >>>>>> to
>     >>>>>> delete rows in a multiple-table delete, the default database is 
> used
>     >>>>>> unless
>     >>>>>> one is specified explicitly. For example, if the default database 
> is
>     >>>>>> db1,
>     >>>>>> the following statement does not work because the unqualified alias
>     >>>>>> reference a2 is interpreted as having a database of db1:
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> §
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> §  DELETE a1, a2 FROM db1.t1 AS a1 INNER JOIN db2.t2 AS a2
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> WHERE a1.id <http://a1.id>=a2.id <http://a2.id>;
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> To correctly match an alias that refers to a table outside the
>     >>>>>> default
>     >>>>>> database, you must explicitly qualify the reference with the name 
> of
>     >>>>>> the
>     >>>>>> proper database:
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> DELETE a1, db2.a2 FROM db1.t1 AS a1 INNER JOIN db2.t2 AS a2
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> WHERE a1.id <http://a1.id>=a2.id <http://a2.id>;
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Now alias resolution does not require qualification and alias
>     >>>>>> references
>     >>>>>> should not be qualified with the database name. Qualified names are
>     >>>>>> interpreted as referring to tables, not aliases.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Statements containing alias constructs that are no longer permitted
>     >>>>>> must
>     >>>>>> be
>     >>>>>> rewritten. (Bug #27525)
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Rick James <rja...@yahoo-inc.com 
> <mailto:rja...@yahoo-inc.com>>
>     >>>>>> wrote:
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Singer, do you have some examples?
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>     >>>>>>> From: Singer Wang [mailto:w...@singerwang.com 
> <mailto:w...@singerwang.com>]
>     >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:59 PM
>     >>>>>>> To: Mihail Manolov
>     >>>>>>> Cc: Mike Franon; Akshay Suryavanshi; <mysql@lists.mysql.com 
> <mailto:mysql@lists.mysql.com>>
>     >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Upgrading form mysql 5.0.90 to 5.5 or 5.6
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> There are queries that works with 5.1/5.0 that do not work with 
> 5.5,
>     >>>>>>> I
>     >>>>>>> would test extensively..
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> S
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Mihail Manolov <
>     >>>>>>> mihail.mano...@liquidation.com 
> <mailto:mihail.mano...@liquidation.com>> wrote:
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>> You could jump from 5.0 directly to 5.5 and skip 5.1. I have
>     >>>>>>>> without
>     >>>>>>>> any issues. There are some configuration file change, which you
>     >>>>>>>> may
>     >>>>>>>> want to consider checking. I definitely recommend upgrading your
>     >>>>>>>> development servers for an extensive testing. Some queries _may_
>     >>>>>>>> run
>     >>>>>>>> slower or not work at all and you may have to rearrange how you
>     >>>>>>>> join
>     >>>>>>> tables in your queries.
>     >>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>> The upgrade from 5.5 to 5.6 should me smoother, though.
>     >>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Mike Franon wrote:
>     >>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>>> Great thanks for the info, I guess the best way to do this is
>     >>>>>>>>> take
>     >>>>>>> a
>     >>>>>>>>> spare server, set it up with our standard setup, and then start
>     >>>>>>>>> the
>     >>>>>>>>> upgrade as you said 5.0 -> 5.1 -> 5.5, test and then upgrade to
>     >>>>>>>>> 5.6
>     >>>>>>>>> and test.

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