So listen guy, this is a big miss understanding:

What i wanted to say, and what i did say was:

1.) If you want to have an "easy way tool" for creating your reports -
use MS Access
2.) All this things do not have anything to do with the "base" of your
datas (either you use Oracle, MySQL, Access or whatever) - so that
means: if you are using oracle, you can still use ACCESS to create some
reports.
3.) a "dummy users" is not a "fool user" but is a user how is like a
user is ... "normal, not trained, unexperienced user" ... That doesnt
mean that he has just shit in his head!
4.) I didnt talk of you as a dummy user, because as I understand your
email, you were asking for tool to create reports easily and fast.
5.) I think the only guy in this list, who falls into this
missunderstanding is you, because nobody contacted me to tell me, not to
use words like "dummy user" on the list. Maybe thats because they did
understand what was mentioned about it.
6.) This shouldnt start a discussion of what things are good or bad in
IT science. So if you like Access, choose access, if you like MySQL
choose that one, and if you have a lot of money, than choose oracle,
which is definitly (sorry list) the best and completest database product
on the market.

So guy, before I come up and start giving you words, which i maybe see
later as a little bit to "unfriendly" ... I will stop this email now. 

My tip for you: TAKE MS ACCESS TO CREATE YOUR REPORTS ... Or ... IF YOU
WANT TO HAVE A REAL GOOD REPORTING TOOL ... TAKE CRYSTAL REPORT. 

Michael


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Wang Feng [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. Oktober 2003 11:52
An: Michael Haunzwickl; 'Director General: NEFACOMP';
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Re: printing reports


Michael,

Couldn't help myself to read your words again, and I have to say you r
so stupid and annoying, at least today (i'm in a bad temper today).

Although I don't use Access often, I don't say Access is for "dummy
users". In my opinion, every programming language and any tool has its
own depth. Although there are some limits for Access, eg. speed and
limits of user numbers, it has its own market, and if you can play it
perfectly well, you'll be better off.

You think MySQL is not for Dummy users? Well, in Oracle forums, they say
it is, in this forum, people don't say so. But is MySQL really for dummy
users? I say no, again, if you can play it well, you'll be better off.

Access could be lightweight to MySQL, MySQL is definitely light-weight
to Oracle so far.

You suggest me to use Access, right?  No thanks. I hope you can insist
on Oracle, since Oracle is definitely not for dummy users, and then you
can laugh at everybody in this mailing list - dummy users.



Look, man, even you know I'm a dummy user, you don't have to say so on
the mailing list :-) Now people around the world know *Wang Feng* is a
dummy user, some of my friends on the list will laugh at me later.
(Luckily I'm not a lecturer, otherwise just can't imagine how to face
the students.) So, I hate you, hate you!!!!! and you're so
annoying!!!!!! Don't wanna talk to you anymore.


feng




----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Haunzwickl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Director General: NEFACOMP'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Wang Feng'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 6:03 PM
Subject: AW: printing reports


> Well, it seems to me, that he is looking for some replacement of 
> "oracle reports" ... Which is ... As far as i know ... Something like 
> "MS Access-Report-Wizard" where you can say: Take this table, this 
> field, link it to this field in the second table, show me all records 
> which have date = TODAY and print it as a list in this form" ... It is

> something like that and is the opposite to "oracle FORMS" which helps 
> up building "input forms" for clients ... I think thats all.
>
> So, if I would be you I would take access for that ... Small, simple, 
> fast in building reports, and easy to handle (- only sad thing about 
> it: it is not working for real programers ... But quite good for 
> "dummy users" ;-))))))
>
> Michael
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Director General: NEFACOMP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. Oktober 2003 09:52
> An: Wang Feng; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: Re: printing reports
>
>
> Some are free, others are commercial.
> But, note that most of these are mainly for administration purposes. 
> For example phpMyAdmin is a free PHP based client.
>
> Do you know some programming language? Like Visual Basic, C, C++, 
> Java, PHP, ...
>
> You said that you are able to run queries, ...
> How do you run those queries? I suspect you use
>             SHELL>mysql -u UserName -h HostNameOrIP -p
>
> Is that right? If it is, then I will tell you that
>     mysql
>  is a client developped by the MySQL team to ease your administration 
> of the database. Unfortunately, they have not implemented a reporting 
> tool in that client.
>
> Are you familiar with MS Access? If yes, you can use Access to work 
> with MySQL data. If you have Access installed, just let me know and I 
> will send you Step by Step Instructions.
>
>
> Thanks
> Emery
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wang Feng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Director General: NEFACOMP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 22:38
> Subject: Re: printing reports
>
>
> > Hi, Emery
> >
> > What do you mean client software? I just downloaded the MySQL server

> > and I can insert data to the database and select the data from 
> > database and do some queries. In Oracle server, there're some 
> > commands
>
> > which can be used
> to
> > edit and print reports. What about MySQL?
> >
> > Also, as you said, I need a client software, what client software 
> > are you using? Are they free? Please give me some advice.
> >
> >
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > feng
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Director General: NEFACOMP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Wang Feng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 12:49 AM
> > Subject: Re: printing reports
> >
> >
> > > To get data from/into MySQL, you will always need a client 
> > > software.
>
> > > So, the reporting thing should be implemented in your client 
> > > software.
> > >
> > > Hope to be right!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Emery
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Wang Feng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Wang Feng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 12:22
> > > Subject: Re: printing reports
> > >
> > >
> > > > > In MySQL, how can I create and print reports without the help 
> > > > > of
> > neither
> > > a
> > > > > scripting language(e.g. php) nor a thrid party software tool?
> > > >
> > > > bad grammar :-(  but you guys understand what i'm saying, right?
> > > > :-)
> > > >
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