One of the first things that I did at my former job was to turn off all
external-facing network adapters to our DB machines. If you're fortunate
enough that your DB resides on it's own box and not the webserver itself,
then there's really no reason that you *need* to have it externally facing.
There are PLENTY of solutions that you can put in place in order to still
have remote access to those machines without them having an externally
routable IP.

While it is possible for a hacker to compromise one machine and then access
the DB machine over your internal WAN at the hosting location, the more
roadblocks you put between a potential hacker and your sensitive data, the
better.

-M


-----Original Message-----
From: Curley, Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Security Question
Importance: High


thanks for reply - the requirement comes from a security audit - so try to
think in terms of a hacker

Obviously and (I had assumed)
1.      - the files would have tight unix security file permissions applied
2.      - indeed the key would be stored on an internal tightly managed box
(or device)

Another Assumption
------------------
Encrypting / decrypting all data on the fly would be too expensive and grind
the app to a halt

So the question again :-
        
        Any ideas on how to avoid having data files stored with absolutely
no protection against copying ????


If there is no solution to this then MySql should not be used on internet
accessible boxes for dynamic web sites


Thomas






-----Original Message-----
From: Fagyal, Csongor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 November 2003 12:51
To: Curley, Thomas
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Security Question


Thomas,

>I am trying to find a solution to the following security issue with 
>MySql DB on linux
>
>- Someone copies the DB files to another box, starts a mysql instance, 
>loads the DB and presto - views the 'private' data !!!
>  
>
Well, "someone" should not have access rights to the DB files on the 
first hand.

>Ideally I would like to know if there is any option in MySql to store 
>the DB files in a secure format and one that needs a key or similiar to
open the DB
>  
>
If someone was able to access your DB files, he would probably also be 
able to access that key (that you must store _somewhere_), wouldn't he?

- Csongor


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