thanks for reply - the requirement comes from a security audit - so try to think in 
terms of a hacker

Obviously and (I had assumed)
1.      - the files would have tight unix security file permissions applied
2.      - indeed the key would be stored on an internal tightly managed box (or device)

Another Assumption
------------------
Encrypting / decrypting all data on the fly would be too expensive and grind the app 
to a halt

So the question again :-
        
        Any ideas on how to avoid having data files stored with absolutely no 
protection against copying ????


If there is no solution to this then MySql should not be used on internet accessible 
boxes for dynamic web sites


Thomas






-----Original Message-----
From: Fagyal, Csongor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 November 2003 12:51
To: Curley, Thomas
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Security Question


Thomas,

>I am trying to find a solution to the following security issue with MySql DB on linux
>
>- Someone copies the DB files to another box, starts a mysql instance, loads the DB 
>and presto - views the 'private' data !!!
>  
>
Well, "someone" should not have access rights to the DB files on the 
first hand.

>Ideally I would like to know if there is any option in MySql to store the DB files in 
>a secure format and one that needs a key or similiar to open the DB
>  
>
If someone was able to access your DB files, he would probably also be 
able to access that key (that you must store _somewhere_), wouldn't he?

- Csongor


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