It also would make me chuckle less when I'm in DC and people call "NANOG" a response organization that can be leveraged to mitigate risk to global telecom (internet) infrastructure.
I'm usually thinking "Nanog is a mailing list". - Jared On Jun 9, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Rose Klimovich wrote: > Dan, this would certainly be cleaner and would allow people to “officially” > join and support the organization. Rose > > From: Daniel Golding [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 2:57 PM > To: Jared Mauch > Cc: Nanog Futures > Subject: Re: [Nanog-futures] Transition update > > Disclaimer: not a member of the SC/BoD, just talking out of my backside. If > this sucks, tell me to STFU. > > One aspect of this that I have lobbied for is actual voting membership. The > current "membership" structure was never really ideal - basically, you were a > member if you attended a conference once in a blue moon. At least, you got to > vote - there was no membership, per se, because Merit owned things. > > Of all the engineering, design, and operational disciplines, Network > Engineering is the ONLY one without some kind of real professional > organization. IEEE, ASCE, ACM, ASME - heck, the guys who operate boilers in > midsized office buildings have a professional organization. Only network > engineers don'.t > > Why is this desirable? For one thing, you get something to put on your resume > that shows you are serious about the industry, that you partake in forums to > improve your knowledge, that you are willing to share and teach what you > know, and to learn what you don't. There's a strong networking/career > element. I come from an engineer (mechanical) background, and grew up with a > civil engineer as a dad - these organizations can be very useful. > > NANOG has been, slowly, evolving (slouching?) towards that for years. Now's > the time to make that happen. > > So, how do we do it? > > /modest proposal/ > > The "new" organization needs a voting membership. We can set a modest fee > (not ACM or IEEE crazy $$$) for annual or life membership. You get to display > a logo on your business card (when someone gets around to designing it) and > you can put it on your resume. No journals or membership cards - lets not get > crazy. > > Members can vote. Members get a discount for conferences so that the > membership is break even, if you attend two(?) per year (I have done no math > here). Most of us could get our companies to pay, and those that can't get a > tax break. Folks who can't attend conferences could then still participate. > Folks who do attend conference who don't give a crap wouldn't participate. > > Before anyone says it - the IETF is a standards org, not a network > engineering professional society. And I think its broke. > > Anyway, I'll bloviate about this on Sunday when the mic gets opened up, but > something we can all think about. > > BTW, I know everyone has their panties in a knot about not getting stuff soon > enough or not getting enough communications. Please come to the community > meeting prepare to volunteer - I think when we go our own way, they'll be a > lot more opportunities for volunteering. > > - Dan > > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Jared Mauch <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Jun 9, 2010, at 7:08 AM, Sean Figgins wrote: > > > [1] Working as defined as the Internet presence was up and reachable for > > 99+ percent of the time, and the meetings took place as expected with > > topics that were interesting, although not interesting to all the people > > all the time. > > One thing that was always frustrating (As a SC member) was that the "active > community" could be defined as SC+PC+MLC(CC)+Small set of people. > > This was clearly seen in voter turnout numbers each fall. > > - Jared (not a lot of time these days..) > _______________________________________________ > Nanog-futures mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > ______________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Nanog-futures mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures _______________________________________________ Nanog-futures mailing list [email protected] https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
