Dear Xiangsong Cui,

The change in terminology from NAT66 to NPTv6 is the correct acknowledgment of your remark. IDNA2008 served as a first example of the way the Internet technology is able to support a very large diversity in uncoupling the necessary stability, robustness, simplicity of the inside network itself and the diversity, versality and extremely large size of the outside usage. This uncoupling necessitates an Internet Use Interface (IUI) between the inside network and outside users. This is provided by IDNA2008 in naming, this is provided by NPTv6 in numbering. This calls for the IUI to be installed at the ISP or preferably on the userside.

Now, what is of interest and was discussed through my appeals to IESG and IAB and their response last year irt. naming [but actually uncoupling and the acknowledgment of the principle of subsidiarity in the Internet architecturer in addidition to adaptation ability (principle of permanent change, RFC 1958) and simplicity (RFC 3439)], is that the IUI is also seen from the user side. This IUI's target is to provude stability, mobility, specificity to the people centric digital ecosystem experience: this is not limited to interfacing the Internet and even to the Internet technology. In that perspective it becomes an Intelligent User Interface, abiding by the fundamental Internet principle of a dump network and intelligent fringes.

On the naming side, the equivalent to the NPT is the ML-DNS I work on, which is to accept any language orthotypography on an exqual footing and any naming or addressing plan (classes), while respecting and protecting IDNA2008 on the inside Internet side. In the NPTv6 case the user's IDv6 (i.e. the IID) is protected and can be used as encapsualted in any kind of header, starting with the IPv6 prefix, but also a domain name, or another technology address system, or even a different Internet addressing plans.

This means that for the emerging IUse community (Intelligent use of the world digital ecosystem) IDv6 can be used right now by its own right, even under IPv4 and provide by its IUse documentation a strong incentive to switch to IPv6. Another interesting advantage for small/medium users is that the IPSec support can be used at smart plugs at the fringes of personal domain zones throughout the network.

Best
jfc



At 08:53 04/03/2011, Xiangsong Cui wrote:
Hi Fred,

I haven't read this draft, in fact, I'm reading RFC3002.


In section 4.3.4, it reads,

   It was recommended that an effort be made to eliminate any
   requirement for NAT in an IPv6 Internet.  The IAB believes that the
   IPv6 address space is large enough to preclude any requirement for
   private address allocation [55] or address translation due to address
   space shortage [15].  Therefore, accomplishing this should primarily
   require installing and enforcing proper address allocation policy on
   registry and service providers.  It was recommended to establish
   policies requiring service providers to allocate a sufficient
   quantity of global addresses for a sites use.  The feeling was that
   NAT should be easily eliminated provided efficient strategies are
   defined to address renumbering [17,62] and mobility [37] issues.

My questions here are,

Is the requirement for NAT in IPv6 Internet avoidless?
Cann't we (service provider) find appropriate policy or strategies to
address this problem?
Or the Internet situation has changed?

Thanks!
Xiangsong

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