This is a good resource for grounding and interconnecting devices:

http://www.rane.com/note110.html

Best,

David Moore

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Donald Put <[email protected]> wrote:

> When only one side of a shield is connected it's to prevent ground
> loops and the resulting hum they cause.  Since patch bays are used to
> connect various pieces of equipment, which can be at different ground
> potentials if everything isn't electrically copacetic with the studio
> mains wiring and/or other issues, there can be some induced hum if all
> shields are connected at both ends.  Even if the shield is only
> connected at one end, you will get the benefit from it.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Don
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:28 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Can anyone answer our "open ended shield" question? I've got a huge
> > cable configuration job right in front of me and if I don't have to
> > solder a shield on one end that would be wonderful. I'm guessing the
> > patchbay side is probably balanced. What's the deal with the shield?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dave
> >
> > ---- Original Message ----
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: NEOTEK:  Neotek Elite II Pin Out
> > Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:29:58 -0700
> >
> >>um yeah...just finished my 96 point patchbay, going to the console
> >>and
> >>an external patchbay for outboard gear so I am really interested in
> >>the concept of open ended shield on one side.
> >>
> >>I understand the concept of star grounding and plan on lifting my
> >>individual components and sending the shield/patch bay chassis to one
> >>
> >>ground but the open ended patch bay adds a new twist to this concept.
> >>
> >>Thanx,
> >>Jack
> >>
> >>
> >>On Aug 11, 2010, at 2:21 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ike,
> >>>  Can you explain the thought of grounding on one end only? I just
> >>> terminated 96 1/4" ins/outs for my multitrack and I soldered fully
> >>> balanced. Are you saying that I should disconnect the shield on one
> >>> end?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Dave Spencer
> >>>
> >>> ---- Original Message ----
> >>> From: [email protected]
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>> Subject: Re: NEOTEK:  Neotek Elite II Pin Out
> >>> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:43:00 -0400
> >>>
> >>>> The wonderful thing about EDAC connectors is that they are really
> >>>> easy
> >>>> to reconfigure if they aren't right.
> >>>>     I strongly reccommend that you have your cables wired with the
> >>>>
> >>>> sheild terminated at one end only (except the Mic sources, of
> >>>> course).
> >>>> Best,
> >>>>
> >>>> Ike Zimbel
> >>>> Zimbel Audio Ltd
> >>>> 416-720-0887
> >>>> www.zimbelaudio.com
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2010-08-11, at 11:16 AM, Jon King <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Ike,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm doing my best to find that out from the gentlemen I'm buying
> >>>> the
> >>>>> desk from (the split connector idea).. It's a 40 channel with
> >>>>> audiomate. Thanks again for the input!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jon
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Aug 11, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Ike wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Jon
> >>>>>>     I was just looking at an old post from a list member who had
> >>>>
> >>>>>> gotten his Elite snakes made by Redco. So they should have it on
> >>>>>> file. I have never seen any variation in the order of the
> >>pin-out
> >>>>
> >>>>>> which is (from memory, I'm on vacation...):
> >>>>>> a-1+
> >>>>>> k-1-
> >>>>>> v-1 sheild
> >>>>>> It then continues across the connector in rows of eight
> >>channels.
> >>>>>>        The "custom" stuff is usually whether they put all 40
> >>>> tape-
> >>>>>> outs on one connector (on a 40 ch desk) or split it up over two
> >>>>>> connectors.
> >>>>>> Hope this helps.
> >>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>> Ike Zimbel
> >>>>>> Zimbel Audio Ltd
> >>>>>> 416-720-0887
> >>>>>> www.zimbelaudio.com
> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2010-08-11, at 9:36 AM, Jon King <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hey Guys,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm sure you all have had this question 5000 times. I'm looking
> >>>>>>> for an Elco Pin Out for a 1999-2000 Neotek Elite 2.  I'm in
> >>>>>>> process of purchase and I'm trying to get Redco started on the
> >>>>>>> snakes. I'm just having no luck finding a pin out for Mic Lines
> >>/
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> Multi Track Sends / Multi Track Returns. I understand these
> >>>>>>> consoles were quasi custom but surely there has to be some sort
> >>>> of
> >>>>>>> standard of this. Thanks in advance!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jon
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------
> >>>>>>> Jon King
> >>>>>>> Producer/Songwriter
> >>>>>>> Page 2 Music Inc.
> >>>>>>> Nashville, TN.
> >>>>>>> (270)-366-2674
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --------------------------------------
> >>>>> Jon King
> >>>>> Producer/Songwriter
> >>>>> Page 2 Music Inc.
> >>>>> Nashville, TN.
> >>>>> (270)-366-2674
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
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