In most of my 100s of installs, I tied the ground at the OUTPUTS and cut at the inputs. Then I utilized a star ground with heavy gauge wire. Quiet as a son-of-a-gun every time. Tie both ends of all mic lines!!!!

You will occasionally find a device that is unhappy with this arrangement and it will require some monkeying around to make it happy.

FWIW, any simple system, IE under 10-15 devices or so, connect all grounds and you will be perfectly happy, especially if there are all balanced or all unbalanced devices.

YMMV!!!!!

Regards,

db

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AV Wizard, Audio Guru & Team Leader delivering exceptional
on-time & under-budget results with cutting edge technologies.


Quoting [email protected]:

Can anyone answer our "open ended shield" question? I've got a huge
cable configuration job right in front of me and if I don't have to
solder a shield on one end that would be wonderful. I'm guessing the
patchbay side is probably balanced. What's the deal with the shield?

Thanks,
Dave

---- Original Message ----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: NEOTEK:  Neotek Elite II Pin Out
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:29:58 -0700

um yeah...just finished my 96 point patchbay, going to the console
and
an external patchbay for outboard gear so I am really interested in
the concept of open ended shield on one side.

I understand the concept of star grounding and plan on lifting my
individual components and sending the shield/patch bay chassis to one

ground but the open ended patch bay adds a new twist to this concept.

Thanx,
Jack


On Aug 11, 2010, at 2:21 PM, [email protected] wrote:

Ike,
 Can you explain the thought of grounding on one end only? I just
terminated 96 1/4" ins/outs for my multitrack and I soldered fully
balanced. Are you saying that I should disconnect the shield on one
end?

Thanks,
Dave Spencer

---- Original Message ----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: NEOTEK:  Neotek Elite II Pin Out
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:43:00 -0400

The wonderful thing about EDAC connectors is that they are really
easy
to reconfigure if they aren't right.
    I strongly reccommend that you have your cables wired with the

sheild terminated at one end only (except the Mic sources, of
course).
Best,

Ike Zimbel
Zimbel Audio Ltd
416-720-0887
www.zimbelaudio.com
Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-08-11, at 11:16 AM, Jon King <[email protected]> wrote:

Ike,

I'm doing my best to find that out from the gentlemen I'm buying
the
desk from (the split connector idea).. It's a 40 channel with
audiomate. Thanks again for the input!

Jon




On Aug 11, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Ike wrote:

Hi Jon
    I was just looking at an old post from a list member who had

gotten his Elite snakes made by Redco. So they should have it on
file. I have never seen any variation in the order of the
pin-out

which is (from memory, I'm on vacation...):
a-1+
k-1-
v-1 sheild
It then continues across the connector in rows of eight
channels.
       The "custom" stuff is usually whether they put all 40
tape-
outs on one connector (on a 40 ch desk) or split it up over two
connectors.
Hope this helps.
Best,
Ike Zimbel
Zimbel Audio Ltd
416-720-0887
www.zimbelaudio.com
Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-08-11, at 9:36 AM, Jon King <[email protected]> wrote:

Hey Guys,

I'm sure you all have had this question 5000 times. I'm looking
for an Elco Pin Out for a 1999-2000 Neotek Elite 2.  I'm in
process of purchase and I'm trying to get Redco started on the
snakes. I'm just having no luck finding a pin out for Mic Lines
/

Multi Track Sends / Multi Track Returns. I understand these
consoles were quasi custom but surely there has to be some sort
of
standard of this. Thanks in advance!

Jon


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Jon King
Producer/Songwriter
Page 2 Music Inc.
Nashville, TN.
(270)-366-2674




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Producer/Songwriter
Page 2 Music Inc.
Nashville, TN.
(270)-366-2674





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