Hi Matt,
I have one of those old Soundcraft 200s (a B, I think; ;yes para
mids)...............it's a pretty decent sounding board, but very
limited routing, inputs, etc.. Guess I'll be the odd one out here and
say I don't think the Mackie is all that bad. If you don't push it
too hard (inputs, busses or any other point) it's really ok. I've
done label release stuff on Mackies and if used within these
constraints and the usual degree of care is put at mic, source, etc.
they really don't get in the way at all. Now, I would NOT want to try
and fix one.............I don't think they are made to be readily
repaired. The newer ones may be stock full of surface mount ICs, the
old ones are just stock full period. The advantage/trade off of the
Mackie vs say the 200B or similar. The Mackie will have better SNR,
lower distortion and decent routing/IO flexibility, but it "is what
it is". An older board like the 200B will be easily repairable, you
can swap out ICs for tone, noise, distortion, whatever AND a big +
the modules pull out like a "real" console! I've used mine as an FX
return mixer, for additional channels and for sub mix work.
Pretty much a "pick your poison" choice. The other Brit stuff from
the '90s should be similar both good and bad to the 200B. A few of
the specific ones I've worked with escape me at the moment. $ wise,
you should get a really good return on your investment. Keep in mind
the older stuff may well need re-caped, power supply work, etc..
Regards, Jim
Jun 15, 2011 03:09:01 AM, [email protected] wrote:
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This is all great stuff guys-- thank you.
I should have mentioned this, but I also need faders and mutes, so
anything racked is out. I'm thinking either the Allen& Heath or the
Soundcraft 200.
Matt
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Jim Mikles wrote:
If you only need effects returns, why not something like an Alesis
MultiMix 8 Line (or a multitude of other line mixers). Single rack
space, 8 stereo line inputs to stereo outs, simple operation and
integration, low cost. Buy two!
Jim
On 6/14/2011 9:07 PM, os wrote:
Hey Matt,
I am a bid fan of the Allen&
Heath Mix wizzards... 16 x 2 with 6 sends, 4 band eq, rack
mountable..
They are constructed a lot better than
Mackies..etc.
They use a verticle circuit board
under each channel.
I like the version 2 model the best.. Version 1
used nylon jacks.
Version 2 had metal jacks and internal
conponents that are easy to repair..
Version 3 went to surface mount which
can be a pain to work on.
I use one for live pa and small
portable recording. They sound good.
greg dwinell
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Guys--
Thanks so much for the recommendations. About the Soundcraft
200
series-- what's the difference between the "b" the "bve" and
the
"sr". They look like the same input module to me, but I have
only worked on Soundcraft and it was a Ghost.
The Midas Venice is a bit out of my range, pricewise.
Best,
Matt
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Josh
Fry
wrote:
If you want something super clean and a
bit newer, you couldn't go past the Midas Venice. They may
be a 'live' console, but they sound so far above their
asking price. Pre's On them sound fantastic and the whole
board is rock solid.
Cheers,
Josh
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On 15/06/2011, at 6:59 AM, Matt Walsh
wrote:
> Hi guys--
>
> I have a 28-input Series II and on some mixes, I
could use more channels for reverbs, delays, etc. So I
am thinking of getting a little "sidecar". Thing is, I
don't have the space or money for a baby Neve or even a
baby Neotek. For my application, it'd probably be okay
to use something like a Mackie 1604. However, I know
Yamaha and Allen and Heath-- among others-- make
similar
compact pretty-decent-seeming compact mixers.
>
> Does anyone have any experience with the mixers of
this type? Is there a "best in breed"? I trust your
opinions more than those of the Information
Superhighway, so if anyone could weigh in, I'd be
highly
appreciative!
>
> Thanks!
> Matt
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