first... come off it James!
surprised by your doubts.
You are one perfect NBer : )
then...
Dear Simon et al
on admitting to being an artist
i hear you but take another approach.
when it comes up
i brace myself
take a deep breath
and call myself an artist.
as a way of being FOR art
FOR a tradition of willful (rather than submissive) practices - that I
am not ready to give up on.
being the most artist that I can be
which is to be free and connected and alert and part of a conscious
shaping force of the whole ecology of ideas, beings and things.
re-claiming art now
and using my elbows the best I can to make some space for future art
freedoms
i see the encroaching marketization of everything and I refuse to run
and risk loosing touch with the values and process that have shaped me,
enriched my world
art continues to generate more ways to be and see myself together with
others
i want to keep collaborating with others to create and artify the world.
corporations are running out of land and mineral and energy resources to
exploit and now it is moving into us, inside us, mining our insides,
"creativity" (as an alternative to art) does not provide a safe haven
from corporatisation.
so i am for art that is critical, indigestible, eloquent, indescribable,
shapeshifting, cross-realmish, inter-connected, awkward, lumpy,
unmanageable, critical- and networks give us a great way to do this
together.
cheers
Ruth
On 07/02/2012 15:18, Simon Biggs wrote:
I can understand why some people don't want to call themselves
artists, even when they are. Mike Kelly, a very successful artist, was
quoted as saying that if he'd known art was going to become as
corporatised as it has he would never have chosen to be an artist
(this quote has been viral on Twitter since his recent death). I
wonder what he would have chosen to be - or would he have made up
something new? This is what we need...
People consider what I do as art and assume I'm an artist. However,
like Kelly and James, I became disillusioned with art and the art
world a long time ago - not because I've been given a hard time (quite
the contrary) but because I am disgusted at what seems to motivate
many artists and the people who engage (and run) art professionally.
It's become a laundry for dodgy money. Many artists, curators and
cultural commentators are happy to join the circus. It is sad.
Due to this I now think of what I do as the "practice once known as
art". A programme I run, which is nominally in an art college
(although for administrative reasons it is located in an architecture
department) intentionally does not have the word art in its title (MSc
by Research in Interdisciplinary Creative Practices). This allows us
to work in ways that a course in our art department, with the
expectation of producing artists to work in the art world, would
struggle to consider, bound by a pre-determined framework of creative
practice and engagement that is "art" as we now know it. Again, it's
sad (hope my colleagues in art aren't reading this) to see students
being primed as potential cannon-fodder for the art world.
best
Simon
On 7 Feb 2012, at 14:29, isabel brison wrote:
Hello,
Just wondering why you choose not to call yourself an artist. Because
the random stuff you post looks suspiciously like art to me...
Isabel
On 6 February 2012 15:04, James Morris <ja...@jwm-art.net
<mailto:ja...@jwm-art.net>> wrote:
Hi,
I recently noticed that facebook warns people about links to my
website
being malicious and surbl.org <http://surbl.org/> blacklists my
domain name as associated
with spam.
From what I can tell, some email clients allow filtering of messages
based upon these blacklists such as multi.surbl.org
<http://multi.surbl.org/> or ws.surbl.org <http://ws.surbl.org/> and
it is within these lists where my domain is listed in. Spam filters
which use these lists scan the message _body_ and if a reference to a
blacklisted domain is found then the message is regarded as spam.
I'm rather disappointed about this and it's lead me to wonder if
maybe
something I've posted here is to blame. I know I've been
argumentative
at times and been reactionary to things I dislike but I hope that the
actual work I've posted (not so much recent work) over the years has
made up for it.
The artist career thing for me never took off and academically the
degree was as far as I got. Programming has become my focus and
due to
that I find little time for anything else.
With that in mind I'm left making posts on the occasional inspired
impulse. Hence the mobile-shot audio-clips and photographs from while
I'm at (factory)work. Or screenshots of software I'm trying to
develop.
Seems like I'm producing less and less art. But does it have to
be art
to post here? I tend to focus on the "creativity" in the title to
help
me justify my posts here. I have a memory (real or imagined) of
when I
first subscribed of asked Marc if it was ok and he said 'for now'.
The thing is I don't want to unsubscribe just because I'm not an
artist
any more, but the impulses to post *random*stuff* are likely to be
around for a while... Unless people speak up to disuade me and give
good reasons for why and etc....
James.
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