It would seem,
that's the separation between Art and life - which is commonly
understood to be so.
By many people.
Often I thought I might be doing art - then I realised that it was
more like obsessive practice of mark making (chalking the streets
with symbols derived from beetles for example).
Creativity takes many forms.
Outsider 'Art' is done for many reasons - not normally to do with
exhibitions, marketing and money - this stuff is very often more
interesting than gallery art - or intellectual art.
However it takes all kindsa creativity to make the world swing.
Simon
On 7 Feb 2012, at 15:18, Simon Biggs wrote:
I can understand why some people don't want to call themselves
artists, even when they are. Mike Kelly, a very successful artist,
was quoted as saying that if he'd known art was going to become as
corporatised as it has he would never have chosen to be an artist
(this quote has been viral on Twitter since his recent death). I
wonder what he would have chosen to be - or would he have made up
something new? This is what we need...
People consider what I do as art and assume I'm an artist. However,
like Kelly and James, I became disillusioned with art and the art
world a long time ago - not because I've been given a hard time
(quite the contrary) but because I am disgusted at what seems to
motivate many artists and the people who engage (and run) art
professionally. It's become a laundry for dodgy money. Many
artists, curators and cultural commentators are happy to join the
circus. It is sad.
Due to this I now think of what I do as the "practice once known as
art". A programme I run, which is nominally in an art college
(although for administrative reasons it is located in an
architecture department) intentionally does not have the word art
in its title (MSc by Research in Interdisciplinary Creative
Practices). This allows us to work in ways that a course in our art
department, with the expectation of producing artists to work in
the art world, would struggle to consider, bound by a pre-
determined framework of creative practice and engagement that is
"art" as we now know it. Again, it's sad (hope my colleagues in art
aren't reading this) to see students being primed as potential
cannon-fodder for the art world.
best
Simon
On 7 Feb 2012, at 14:29, isabel brison wrote:
Hello,
Just wondering why you choose not to call yourself an artist.
Because the random stuff you post looks suspiciously like art to
me...
Isabel
On 6 February 2012 15:04, James Morris <ja...@jwm-art.net> wrote:
Hi,
I recently noticed that facebook warns people about links to my
website
being malicious and surbl.org blacklists my domain name as associated
with spam.
From what I can tell, some email clients allow filtering of messages
based upon these blacklists such as multi.surbl.org or
ws.surbl.org and
it is within these lists where my domain is listed in. Spam filters
which use these lists scan the message _body_ and if a reference to a
blacklisted domain is found then the message is regarded as spam.
I'm rather disappointed about this and it's lead me to wonder if
maybe
something I've posted here is to blame. I know I've been
argumentative
at times and been reactionary to things I dislike but I hope that the
actual work I've posted (not so much recent work) over the years has
made up for it.
The artist career thing for me never took off and academically the
degree was as far as I got. Programming has become my focus and
due to
that I find little time for anything else.
With that in mind I'm left making posts on the occasional inspired
impulse. Hence the mobile-shot audio-clips and photographs from while
I'm at (factory)work. Or screenshots of software I'm trying to
develop.
Seems like I'm producing less and less art. But does it have to be
art
to post here? I tend to focus on the "creativity" in the title to
help
me justify my posts here. I have a memory (real or imagined) of
when I
first subscribed of asked Marc if it was ok and he said 'for now'.
The thing is I don't want to unsubscribe just because I'm not an
artist
any more, but the impulses to post *random*stuff* are likely to be
around for a while... Unless people speak up to disuade me and give
good reasons for why and etc....
James.
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