might also interest people here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/zerophone/
is there a workshop in it..? ;) cheers! ahanox? xxx May 27 2017 12:51 PM, "aharon" <mis...@spell.blue> wrote: > Thanks Helen, didn't know of lineageos.org. will try the os.. > Fairphone.. yes.. I wonder about the price.. out of my range, but is this > difference in price the > kind of number, in pounds, euros and other currencies - of a person's > mobile-linked freedom? > the price to pay for not working for google's fame and fortune? > > cheers! > > aharon > xx > > May 24 2017 1:07 PM, "helen varley jamieson" <he...@creative-catalyst.com> > wrote: > >> i don't know about all mobile devices, but fairphone has a forum of >> alternative operating systems: >> https://forum.fairphone.com/c/software/alternative-oses >> >> (i don't have actual experience of any of them, i'm just using the standard >> fairphone kola nut OS) >> >> h : ) >> >> On 23.05.2017 23:22, x wrote: >> >>> oh.. operating systems.. >>> just had over a month of being on road and having to keep technologically >>> cheap yet light.. >>> hence still suffering android.. >>> >>> am i missing something or there is a complete and utter absence of quality >>> free operating system >>> for mobile devices? >>> >>> rant apart 😃 if people need a light, Graphical and upto date os for an old >>> netbook laptop etc >>> maybe check puppylinux,? >>> you can get, in a sense, latest ubuntu or slackware running on an old or >>> new netbook >>> without habing to deal with the commandline bits.. >>> >>> ciao from brasilia. >>> aharon >>> xxx >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from myMail for Android >>> >>> Monday, 22 May 2017, 10:22pm -03:00 from Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com: >>> >>>> It installed quickly for me. I think there's a way to get a graphic os on >>>> it but I haven't tried. Used to use Cygwin and still have it! >>>> >>>> - Alan >>>> >>>> On Tue, 23 May 2017, James Morris wrote: >>>>> It's only really the command line tools (which is still a lot!). >>>>> >>>>> I got quite excited about it at work where I'm using a few BASH scripts >>>>> with >>>>> Cygwin on a regular basis. Unfortunately the Windows 10 Anniversary update >>>>> which contains the Linux tools consistently fails to install - and takes >>>>> 3/4 >>>>> hour to not install :-( >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 22/05/17 23:40, Alan Sondheim wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Fwiw, one thing worth noting - for those who are using limited memory >>>>>> (like >>>>>> my netbook), Midori's an excellent browser - >>>>>> Also wanted to mention that you can open up Ubuntu in Win10 - I have it >>>>>> working there as well. It comes with the OS, >>>>>> >>>>>> - Alan >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 22 May 2017, helen varley jamieson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks alan :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i have noticed how much less space the OS needs, & how quickly >>>>>>> everything >>>>>>> runs! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> h : ) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 22.05.2017 18:59, Alan Sondheim wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I use linux on my older laptops; it's easy to install; in fact >>>>>>> I'm on a Dell netbook now with only 2 gig of ram and it runs >>>>>>> fine. One good thing about the OS is that you can install a >>>>>>> different one in maybe 15 minutes, so you can tailor the linux >>>>>>> distro to your needs. Fwiw, I use linux mint for the most part, >>>>>>> lots of terminal stuff. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good luck with this! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Alan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, 22 May 2017, helen varley jamieson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> hi everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> more than a year ago i wrote to this list asking for >>>>>>> advice about buying a >>>>>>> linux laptop. it took me a while, but i'm now >>>>>>> happily working with ubuntu >>>>>>> mate on a no-brand machine :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i spent quite a lot of time looking at second-hand & >>>>>>> B-ware (ex-display) >>>>>>> machines, & also at new models (lenovo, dell, hp, >>>>>>> acer, asus, etc etc ... ) >>>>>>> & got quite overwhelmed by the choice & variables. >>>>>>> nothing was exactly what >>>>>>> i wanted, & i couldn't decide on what to compromise. >>>>>>> i had a couple of >>>>>>> things that were definite - not bigger than 14", >>>>>>> must have ethernet port, >>>>>>> prefereably separate audio in & out; so that >>>>>>> narrowed things down quite a >>>>>>> bit, but still i wasn't finding anything that felt >>>>>>> right. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> then i found a uk company that sells no-brand >>>>>>> laptops with linux >>>>>>> pre-installed (https://www.entroware.com). i could >>>>>>> choose the hard drive, >>>>>>> RAM, keyboard layout, etc & it arrived 5 days after >>>>>>> i ordered it. i took it >>>>>>> out of the box, turned it on, & started using it. >>>>>>> the trickiest thing i've >>>>>>> had to do so far was use the command line to get it >>>>>>> to talk nicely to my >>>>>>> printer - & i managed that without incident. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i'm still adjusting to the non-mac keyboard >>>>>>> shortcuts - it's easier to take >>>>>>> a screenshot but more difficult to do an umlaut (?), >>>>>>> & there are a couple of >>>>>>> things i still need to work out. & one loss is that >>>>>>> there are no linux >>>>>>> drivers for my wireless webcam, so i'm back to a >>>>>>> tethered webcam for now. >>>>>>> but it is soooo much faster than my old mac, & i've >>>>>>> found most of the >>>>>>> software that i need. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> so if anyone else out there is also considering >>>>>>> making the switch to linux, >>>>>>> i say - just do it! :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> h : ) >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> helen varley jamieson >>>>>>> he...@creative-catalyst.com >>>>>>> http://www.creative-catalyst.com >>>>>>> http://www.upstage.org.nz >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We have a situation, Coventry! >>>>>>> 24 November 2016 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> New CD:- LIMIT: >>>>>>> http://www.publiceyesore.com/catalog.php?pg=3&pit=138 >>>>>>> email archive http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ >>>>>>> web http://www.alansondheim.org / cell 718-813-3285 >>>>>>> current text http://www.alansondheim.org/up.txt >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> helen varley jamieson >>>>>>> he...@creative-catalyst.com >>>>>>> http://www.creative-catalyst.com >>>>>>> http://www.upstage.org.nz >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We have a situation, Coventry! >>>>>>> 24 November 2016 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> New CD:- LIMIT: >>>>>> http://www.publiceyesore.com/catalog.php?pg=3&pit=138 >>>>>> email archive http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ >>>>>> web http://www.alansondheim.org / cell 718-813-3285 >>>>>> current text http://www.alansondheim.org/up.txt >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>>>> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >>>>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>>> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >>>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> New CD:- LIMIT: >>>> http://www.publiceyesore.com/catalog.php?pg=3&pit=138 >>>> email archive http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ >>>> web http://www.alansondheim.org / cell 718-813-3285 >>>> current text http://www.alansondheim.org/up.txt >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> -- >> helen varley jamieson >> he...@creative-catalyst.com >> http://www.creative-catalyst.com >> http://www.upstage.org.nzWe have a situation, Coventry! >> 24 November 2016 _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
