Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> writes:

> On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 05:24:45PM +0000, Robert Wilton wrote:
>> Hi Juergen,
>> 
>> On 07/01/2016 16:05, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
>> >On Wed, Jan 06, 2016 at 06:18:46PM +0000, Kent Watsen wrote:
>> >>It’s true that the draft is largely centered around the 
>> >>intended/applied config notion, but not exclusively.  Specifically, 4-B 
>> >>has "Ability to map intended config nodes to associated derived state 
>> >>nodes".  I think that this might be the only exclusion though and, if it 
>> >>weren’t for it I would’ve used your title suggestion from the LC 
>> >>review.   Should one requirement have such influence over the title is 
>> >>the question.  I was trying to be fair to it, but maybe it's going too 
>> >>far.
>> >>
>> >>Regarding visibility and control, I was attempting to use common words 
>> >>(not normative terms) here.  My intent for them is something along the 
>> >>lines of:
>> >>
>> >>   visibility: read/understand
>> >>   control: write/orchestrate
>> >>
>> >We do not write operational state. I have no clue how 'orchestrate'
>> >helps me either. What is wrong with using defined terminology in
>> >a title?
>> I don't think that using defined terminology is a problem.  But I also 
>> think that the title that you have suggested seems to suggest a narrower 
>> scope that what the requirements articulate.
>> 
>> In particular, the draft places requirements relating the configuration 
>> to the derived state (I.e. Req 4B).
>> 
>> It also places further requirements on how management protocols are 
>> expected to handle synchronous and asynchronous config edit requests. 
>> (E.g. Req 2 A, B, C and associated definitions).
>
> Note that synchronous and asynchronous are defined in terms of
> intended / applied configuration.
>  
>> I don't have a particular problem with the current title, but if you 
>> don't like visibility/control, then perhaps "Terminology and 
>> Requirements for Enhanced Handling of Operational State"?
>
> Better but I still think this proposal is too broad given the content
> of the document. I still believe my proposal is right to the point.

+1

The draft talks about introducing applied configuration and its
relationship to state data and intended configuration (which, I believe,
is the good old "running"). I don't see any enhanced handling of
operational state.

Lada

>
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