Dear all,

I believe BCP is correct for the tree diagram document.
Exactly as this is the right status for RFC6087bis, as discussed on the list.

Regards, Benoit.
I think the rules and recommendations in this document should be used, once
agreed and published, by all YANG module drafts within and outside of IETF.
As such its content is BCP.
IETF consensus will be achieved during IETF LC.

Cheers,
Mehmet

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From: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hares
Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 2:07 AM
To: 'Kent Watsen' <kwat...@juniper.net>; 'Lou Berger' <lber...@labn.net>;
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Subject: Re: [netmod] intended status of the tree diagram document

Kent:

A common way to express tree-diagrams in Yang documents provides a
common and clear to describe the models.  This would be really helpful to
those using these yang models.  Seems like a standard or a BCP to me.

Sue Hares


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From: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Kent Watsen
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 7:06 PM
To: Lou Berger; netmod@ietf.org; Benoit Claise; Juergen Schoenwaelder
Subject: Re: [netmod] intended status of the tree diagram document


BCP for tree-diagrams?   This doesn't seem like an appropriate application
of that designation.  I don't view the format for tree diagrams to be a
"practice", whereas it definitely seems "informational".

Looking more deeply at RFC2026, I can see how Section's 4.2.2's "...does
not
represent an Internet community consensus or recommendation" could be
cause for objection, since this draft is obviously going through a WG
(NETMOD) and therefore does, in fact, represent some form of consensus,
but I'm willing to gloss over that line as, clearly, many Informational
RFCs are
published by WGs, which wouldn't be possible if that line were taken
literally.
Perhaps we should file Errata against it?

Kent // co-chair


===== original message =====

Hi Juergen,

     Sorry for the slow response, I missed this message.

Circling back to this discussion made me go revisit RFC2026.  Based on all
the
factors/discussions I agree  that standards track isn't quite right for
this
document, but I also think informational isn't quite right either.  I do
think
BCP would as described in RFC2026 fits.  This said, I think it would be
good to
hear from at least Kent (as Chair) and Benoit (as AD) if they
agree/disagree
with publishing as a BCP.

Kent, Benoit?

Thanks,

Lou

On 11/17/2017 1:54 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
Lou,

right now, the document says standards track, Martin's proposal was to
move to informational. So how do I parse "I think you are correct.  We
should leave as is."?

/js

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 07:36:58AM +0800, Lou Berger wrote:
Martin,
        I think you are correct.  We should leave as is.

I'm sure Kent/the document Shepherd makes sure whatever we do is
right before publication in any case.

Lou (as contributor)

On 11/15/2017 8:58 PM, Martin Bjorklund wrote:
Hi,

Currently, draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams has intended status
Standards Track.  I think I heard during the meeting today that it
ought to be Informational.  I think this makes sense.  It would then
imply that other standards track documents will have the tree
diagram document as an informative reference.

Should we make this change?


/martin

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