On Monday 29 Jul 2002 5:49 am, Mad Scientist wrote:
> On Sunday 28 July 2002 02:21 pm, you wrote:
> > If you look at /usr/lib/menu you will see all sorts of files that have
> > to do with menu.  In those files is a needs clause.
> >
> > If it needs kde then it disappears when kde is removed.  Those files are
> > written directly into the mdk rpm spec files and are cleaned when things
> > are removed.
> >
> > If you remove KDE surely you did not expect anything depending on KDE to
> > stick around.  Konqueror does have an embedded version, true, but that
> > version is not included with the distro.
> >
> > Now menu files can be in the system menu or in the user menu (which are
> > specific to each user) and they can appear for a specific desktop
> >  'Needs kde'  'needs gnome'  'needs blackbox'  are sometimes clauses....
> >
> > There is considerable room for expansion in the menu structure.  The
> > "what to do?" is an example.  It is also easily possible to add another
> > clause to each menu item which defines a level so that a user could rate
> > his own level and if for example choosing newbie, see only the simplest
> > of apps.  This is easily done.
> >
> > What you will notice about our menus is that, to the extent possible,
> > they stay the same across desktops.  KDE and GNOME-specific items that
> > just need the widget set for each of those do propagate across desktops,
> > and are on some of them submenued as "KDE apps" or "GNOME Apps".
> >
> > In other words the system did what it was told which wasn't what you
> > expected.
>
> This is all very helpful information and I'm starting to get a better
> understanding of how these menus work. But I still can't solve this one.
> Although the original poster indicated he had removed KDE, I'm not sure if
> that's the problem. At least in my case, I never removed KDE. Also, it's
> not just the KDE-related menus that are gone. All menus are gone. And they
> are gone from all window managers. I basically have from "Run Command" and
> down still there but everything above is gone. The original poster stated
> "Everything has been lost from my menus except the freshly installed Gnome
> apps." which sounds to me to be the same problem.
>
> When I go "Original menu" style, I do get all those menus, but they do not
> relate to the apps I have installed. I can get the "What to do ?" menus to
> show, but not the "All applications". And they are the ones that really fit
> best with what I actually have installed.
>
> They *do* appear in menudrake. According to menudrake, everything looks
> perfect. They just don't show in the real menus.
>
> Still confused,
>
> -Mad

I saw something similar when I installed Crossover plugin  A menu entry put in 
by Crossover was broken and it stopped all the others appearing. Tracking 
down the offending item and removing it fixed the problem.  It was a real 
pain trying to get to the bottom of it.

derek



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