On Sunday 26 January 2003 02:43 am, Paul wrote:
> In reply to g's mail, d.d. Sun, 26 Jan 2003 00:56:31 +0000:
> >knowledge of your back broke desktop/tower contents would be helpful.
> >
> >if it is still running, i would suggest 3 possible problems to go after
> >first.
> >
> >#1 = power supply:
> > does fan stop?
>
> No, it keeps going.
>
> > do you lose all voltages?
>
> No. There is still power on the mainboard led and the leds of the network
> cards.
>
> >#2 = heat:
> > are you testing with covers on or off?
>
> Both. Same result.
>
> > do you have good air circulation?
> > cpu have correct heat sink and fan?
>
> Yes and yes.
>
> > is memory over heating?
>
> No, it is not. I cannot imagine that it does. I can leave the PC off for 2
> hours, which should be enough to cool off most parts. When I switch the PC
> on in the upright position (and refrain from smoking ;) it stops within 2
> minutes. The hybernate led starts blinking and that's it. Which really is
> weird, since I have the BIOS set to never go into hybernate.
>
> > does mainboard have heat sensors?
>
> Yes, they both show on LM Sensors (through Gkrellm).
> The CPU (Athlon 1200) shows 78C (149F) and something else shows 29.2C
> (75.5F). I am not sure if I set the multiplier readings in Gkrellm
> correctly, but this is what I also could see (plus or minus a few degrees)
> when then machine was still upright. So no change there.
>
> >#3 = harddisk:
> > is drive new? if used, was it previously mounted flat or on side?
>
> The drives (2 x 30Gb ata100) came with the system. It is a little over 1.5
> years old now. The drives previously were mounted flat, now they are on the
> side.
>
> > if drive is flat and stops, flip upside down, still run?
> > if drive on side and stops, flip to other side, still run?
> > if drive is flat and stops, turn to side, still run?
> > if drive on side and stops, turn to flat, still run?
>
> I'd have to try these out sometime. I'll let you know. Thanks for the
> ideas.
>
> Paul
>
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>
> I like this!!!  :-)
I think it is time to upgrade the mother board..... this sucker has a 
microscopic crack, or one of the mount screws that should be isolated is 
shorting that board to the box... can you take the MoBo out and set it on a 
wooden or plexiglass sheet (to insulate it) connect a power supply and video 
card and see it it boots, and if it does, pick the board up (use insulting 
gloves) and see if sitting sideways makes the difference.

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