At 03:13 PM 5/27/03, Anne Wilson wrote:

On Tuesday 27 May 2003 7:38 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 10:25:51AM +0100, John Richard Smith wrote:
> >>ajx wrote:
> >>>Graham Banks wrote:
> >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>>><snip>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Anybody got a boot setup allowing different combinations of
> >>>>>disks/partitions to be accessible in windows & linux?  I've
> >>>>>got two hard disks, the second of which is online only for
> >>>>>occasional backups.  The first has 5 partitions:   a
> >>>>>windows one, a dos one and 3 linux ones (in that order).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>At present I use a boot manager for Windows, called xosl,
> >>>>>which manages the dos/windows side of this perfectly.
> >>>>
> >>>><snip>
> >>>>
> >>>>I currently have 1 of my computers running win98SE,
> >>>>win2000 (for program compatibility) and MDK9.1
> >>>>I use XOSL as a boot manager on this machine as I can
> >>>>setup passwords for the different oses and make booting
> >>>>the winblows partitions a little more secure.
> >>>>
> >>>>All I did was to install lilo on the MDK partition that
> >>>>contains the /boot. I then pointed XOSL to this partition,
> >>>>labelled it Mandrake (as the default os of course). I set
> >>>>the bios to boot only fron hard drive and viola! - works
> >>>>flawlessly (did so with MDK8.2 and MDK9.0 as well) I set
> >>>>lilo to boot after 2 seconds and removed the options for the
> >>>>windows boot options.
> >>
> >>But all you have done really is replace the windblows bootloader
> >> with this XOSL loader,and I'm guessing, in the MBR of whichever
> >> first partition is Windblows , and then installed lilo as a
> >> linux loader in chain loader fashion. Now, perhaps this XOSL
> >> loader is more secure than windblows own, but if so I doubt by
> >> much, since password configuration to both windblows has been a
> >> feature of W98 and W2K from the start.You only have to choose to
> >> set it. So why bother with all this XOSL stuff, just let lilo be
> >> installed in the MBR of which ever windblows OS is first and
> >> chain load as before.
> >
> >I think he wants different combinations of FAT partitions to be
> > visible in DOS and Windows.  lilo will let the Microsoft systems,
> > when booting, make their own decisions as to what is visible,
> > which is precisely what he does not want.  Now there is a utility
> > called letterassign that runs in Windows, (and probably in Dos
> > too, but I'm not sure) that allows you to tell a Windows system
> > what partitions it is to see, and which partitions are to
> > correspond to which so-called "drive" letters. I've used it with
> > Windows 98SE, and it seems to work.
> >
> >-- hendrik
>
> OK, but I have never had any problem with getting any windblows OS
> to recognise any number of FAT 32 partition, whether before or
> after  linux partitions. So it must be in DOS itself, but does
> anyone actually use DOS anymore ?, and in anycase your sayng DOS
> cannot recognise FAT32 partitions ?, really ?

Really.  In fact, I don't think win95 can, either.  Fat32 wasn't
'invented' then.


FAT32 Introduced in Win95 OSR actually.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/q154/9/97.asp&NoWebContent=1

And yes people still use DOS. I have a couple of DOS systems being used as dialup routers - more secure for this purpose than any of the network enabled OS's.

Frank


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