At 04:51 PM 5/27/03, Anne Wilson wrote:

On Tuesday 27 May 2003 8:17 pm, Frank Bax wrote:
> At 03:13 PM 5/27/03, Anne Wilson wrote:
> >On Tuesday 27 May 2003 7:38 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
> > > Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > > >On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 10:25:51AM +0100, John Richard Smith
wrote:
> > > >>ajx wrote:
> > > >>>Graham Banks wrote:
> > > >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >>>><snip>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>Anybody got a boot setup allowing different combinations
> > > >>>>> of disks/partitions to be accessible in windows & linux?
> > > >>>>> I've got two hard disks, the second of which is online
> > > >>>>> only for occasional backups.  The first has 5 partitions:
> > > >>>>>   a windows one, a dos one and 3 linux ones (in that
> > > >>>>> order).
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>At present I use a boot manager for Windows, called xosl,
> > > >>>>>which manages the dos/windows side of this perfectly.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>><snip>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>I currently have 1 of my computers running win98SE,
> > > >>>>win2000 (for program compatibility) and MDK9.1
> > > >>>>I use XOSL as a boot manager on this machine as I can
> > > >>>>setup passwords for the different oses and make booting
> > > >>>>the winblows partitions a little more secure.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>All I did was to install lilo on the MDK partition that
> > > >>>>contains the /boot. I then pointed XOSL to this partition,
> > > >>>>labelled it Mandrake (as the default os of course). I set
> > > >>>>the bios to boot only fron hard drive and viola! - works
> > > >>>>flawlessly (did so with MDK8.2 and MDK9.0 as well) I set
> > > >>>>lilo to boot after 2 seconds and removed the options for
> > > >>>> the windows boot options.
> > > >>
> > > >>But all you have done really is replace the windblows
> > > >> bootloader with this XOSL loader,and I'm guessing, in the
> > > >> MBR of whichever first partition is Windblows , and then
> > > >> installed lilo as a linux loader in chain loader fashion.
> > > >> Now, perhaps this XOSL loader is more secure than windblows
> > > >> own, but if so I doubt by much, since password configuration
> > > >> to both windblows has been a feature of W98 and W2K from the
> > > >> start.You only have to choose to set it. So why bother with
> > > >> all this XOSL stuff, just let lilo be installed in the MBR
> > > >> of which ever windblows OS is first and chain load as
> > > >> before.
> > > >
> > > >I think he wants different combinations of FAT partitions to
> > > > be visible in DOS and Windows.  lilo will let the Microsoft
> > > > systems, when booting, make their own decisions as to what is
> > > > visible, which is precisely what he does not want.  Now there
> > > > is a utility called letterassign that runs in Windows, (and
> > > > probably in Dos too, but I'm not sure) that allows you to
> > > > tell a Windows system what partitions it is to see, and which
> > > > partitions are to correspond to which so-called "drive"
> > > > letters. I've used it with Windows 98SE, and it seems to
> > > > work.
> > > >
> > > >-- hendrik
> > >
> > > OK, but I have never had any problem with getting any windblows
> > > OS to recognise any number of FAT 32 partition, whether before
> > > or after  linux partitions. So it must be in DOS itself, but
> > > does anyone actually use DOS anymore ?, and in anycase your
> > > sayng DOS cannot recognise FAT32 partitions ?, really ?
> >
> >Really.  In fact, I don't think win95 can, either.  Fat32 wasn't
> >'invented' then.
>
> FAT32 Introduced in Win95 OSR actually.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.micro
>soft.com:80/support/kb/articles/q154/9/97.asp&NoWebContent=1
>
> And yes people still use DOS.  I have a couple of DOS systems being
> used as dialup routers - more secure for this purpose than any of
> the network enabled OS's.
>
> Frank

My mistake, then. I thought win95 was fat16.

Anne


The original Win95 was indeed fat16 only - and therefore 2G limit. I made a typo - Win95 OSR2 introduced fat32. There were four versions of Win95, three of which support fat32.


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