On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 11:28:13 -0400
Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> On Wednesday 03 September 2003 10:45 am, HaywireMac wrote:
> 
> > > IIRC, Fetchmail can pass mail through Procmail like a filter,
> >
> > like so:?
> >
> > postconnect "procmail"?
> 
> IIRC, I read this, but am not doing it myself.  I would have to
> research to find the exact command and syntax to make it do this.

Well, I might just have enough now to do a test run, we'll see how it
goes. I'm looking at Derek's tutorial right now, and it's called from
Postfix, so maybe I'll do it that way.

> > > after passing through, Procmail adds whatever is called for by the
> > > recipes and then Fetchmail delivers mail back to the local MTA,
> > > Postfix or Sendmail or whichever MTA you are running.  Also,
> > > Fetchmail can pass mail to Procmail which can act as an MDA and
> > > puts mail directly into the maildir folders, if that is the way
> > > that it is configured.
> >
> > Not to muddy the waters, but just out of curiosity, I could bypass
> > Postfix completely?
> 
> Yes.  Specify a specific MDA, like Procmail and you will bypass
> Postfix completely and write directly to /var/spool/mail/user or write
> directly to maildir type folders as specified by the MDA.
> 
> > I read in one "quickstart" guide that a .forward file is unnecessary
> > if using fetchmail...is that correct?
> 
> Most people only run one set of filters, not more than one since you
> would be checking the same content twice which is twice as much work
> as doing it all the first time.  So, if you use fetchmail and send to
> the MTA which is default behavior, you control delivery from the MTA,
> the .forward file is unnecessary

Excellent, the more steps I can skip while learning, the better...er...
at least in my mind.... ;-)
 
> No, you can send it wherever you like.  For myself, I don't write
> anything directly to a MAILDIR, I like to pull my mail down with the
> client so that I can do a little client side filtering, such as
> putting mail lists in folders, etc.  So, I use procmail to Append to
> file /var/spool/mail/user when I direct mail to specific places.
> 
> Messages that come from known mailing lists or things that I don't
> want to go through the SA or other filters gets appended to
> /var/spool/mail/user, based on who is subscribed to the mail list,
> directly, bypassing any additional filters in Procmail.

How is that accomplished? That would be a procmail recipe, I assume, no?

> Then, known crap is pushed off to /dev/null based on a pinhead list
> that I maintain seperately.

LOL! Hope I never end up on that one...I know I've come close a few
times with others... ;-)

> You can either append it directly using Procmail, or you can stick it
> in MAILDIR directly, or you can let the piped mail go to Postfix where
> it will match the local user specified by Fetchmail with the local
> account and drop it in the right mbox.

Cool.

> > Thanks so much for your time and explanations, I *am* reading the
> > docs at the same time, but as I always say, it is one thing to RTFM,
> > it is another to UTFM!
> 
> Some of the stuff you are wanting to do is stuff that I haven't done
> yet, I actually like running my own mail server, even if I don't have
> it open to the net to send mail from.

Ya, that's my one problem is *sending*, as I cannot use my own domain
(lots of people do reverse lookups, see my IP is a "consumer" block and
reject it...) and must tell Postfix to relay mail through my ISP so as
not to get RBL'd. Someday, though...

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