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October 3, 2003 09:11 am, HaywireMac wrote:
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> That's not really the issue, as we were discussing before. I think you
> even said it, Linux, Unix, whatever platform will never be 100% secure,
> but as always, I would put a default install of Mandrake up against a
> patched and configured Windows box any time and bet on a winner.
>
> Everything is relative, there are no absolutes... LOL!
>
> However, when you talk about something like SELinux, the law of
> diminishing returns would seem to dictate that the cost/effort would
> simply be out of sight for anyone below the level of extreme-l33t-haxor
> to attempt an exploit. In implementing SELinux, the NSA is putting up a
> platform that they hope will be mostly impervious to anything except a
> hacker who is backed by the budget and resources of an entire *State*.

For that notional elite, and their hypothetical state sponsored "projects" 
there are further levels of security, further "layers" to pass before a hack 
possibly gains any access in any targeted system.

Please don't tell me that you don't think the specific research project 
identified above, the developers involved, and the agency in control, have 
never heard of honey traps and tarpits? (-; Or sacrificial decoys; which, 
with their budget, would likely be standard networking "hardware."

Regards;
Charlie
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Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org
Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk
11:37:52 up 13 days, 58 min, 1 user, load average: 0.06, 0.06, 0.03
There are three kinds of people: men, women, and unix.
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