On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alexander Skwar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 11:15 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] Windoze
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 06:25:25PM -0500, Gilbert Baron wrote:
> > > Linux is so great, where are all of the applications. I will
> > tell you where
> > > they are. They are not written because nobody can make money on it .
> >
> > What application do you need?  They are all there!  And everything is
> > available, most even in GPL.  Latest addition: StarOffice 6 will be GPL'd.
> >
> > Or do you mean application == games?  If so, then yes, you are right;
> > *professional* games are _still_ a weakness of Linux.  But that'll change
> > too.
> >
> 
> I mean applications for Ham Radio like
> Truetty   RTTY and AMtor with sound cark
> Zakanaka  PSK31 with sound card
> Logic 5   Logging and radio control program
> Fritz 6   Chess program that has beaten the world champion
> MS Office I don't want to convert files and everyone is using office
> Fugawi    A digital mapping program that allows me to make maps to put in my
> Palm for GPS use
> PSP5      The best low cost image processing program
> 

I have used PSP5, it sucks, Deluxe Paint on my dusty Amiga 500 kicks its ass.
I won't even mention what The Gimp does to it.

>I don't want to convert files and everyone is using office, must, not, rock,
>the, boat, must, not, rock, the, boat, must, not, rock....

> All this is only a start. I have 15000 files on my system. Of course not
> that many apps but a lot.
> Netscape sucks in comparison to IE5.5. Various other things that are not yet
> on Linux.

Its not the fault of Linux that IE 5.5* isn't out for it. Contact your beloved
M$ 8)

*In all fairness IE will work under wine, kinda.

> > > Everyone expects everything for free on Linux. Well ad far as
> > application
> > > choice goes, you get what you pay for.
> >
> > Yes, exactly!  Everything I need is there: Office (KOffice, StarOffice),
> > graphics (GIMP), browser (Netscape, Mozilla), email clients (lots and
> > lotsa), news clients (too many to name 'em all), programming
> > (what language
> > do you want?  I suppose that it is available), databases (MySQL,
> > PostgreSQL,
> > Interbase), ....
> 
> Yes but these applications are not nearly as robust as the Usoft
> counterparts. Nothing available can touch Outlook and Outlook express.

You are right, nothing available can touch Outlook, if you want huge gaping
security holes, Outlook has 'em, with more discovered everyday, put that on a 
system that has no security/stability and you have a real winner!

> > > > > I am not hoping that we talk about LINUX in the past tense. I
> > just find it
> > > is not ready for serious use yet AT HOME.
> >
> > So isn't Windows.  That's all I'm trying to say.
> >
> > > AGAIN though applications are the major thing, they drive the
> > OS and not the
> > > other way around. THAT is the real world.
> >
> > Sure, and that's why Linux will "win".  If there's something to win.
> 
> Not at this time it won't. It is also MUCH harder to install for the average
> person.
> It is a fun toy and learning experience, that is all.
> 

Much harder to install? Harder to install than what?  I know you don't mean
windose/NT/Win2K. Linux is now EASIER to install than any M$ product.

"Linux installations are easier because they *just work* My job would be much
easier if I had to install Linux all day long" 
-Unnamed Compaq OEM installer

>"It is a fun toy and learning experience"
 
A toy? Could you build a 4000 node parallel processing cluster with anything M$?
*IF* it was possible you would need and ARMY of men, whose soul purpose in life
was  to run around  and reboot crashed machines.

A wide sea of Blue comes to mind, Screen Of Death, that is  ;)

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> > Alexander Skwar
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Lets see how long we can make this thread....
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