and right when i thought this thread had seen its final days :) On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, you wrote: > why don't you buy your own and overclock it since your so damn hot to see an >overclocked duron ;-) > > > ------------ Original Message ----------- > > From: dwyatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:38:01 -0500 > > > > uh...who talked 'shit' about you? (You dirty bastard...overclock that > > processor!) :) > > > > > > dwyatt > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Abe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 6:20 PM > > Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100] > > > > > > > its funny. The hardcore anti-overclocking people hate me because I > > don't > > care > > > if people do it and defend the fact that they can do whatever they want > > with > > > thie hardware. Meanwhile, the rabid overclockers talk shit about me > > because I > > > don't feel the need to overclock. > > > > > > Why do I feel like I'm at a high school kegger and not interested in > > drinking? > > > > > > > > > Abe > > > > > > > > > >===== Original Message From "markOpoleO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ===== > > > >Your not down with www.hardocp.com then eh? :) Overclocking is the > > best > > > >thing since sliced bread, when i got a 700mhz and O/ced to 840mhz it > > was > > > >awsome, tests showed it. :p > > > > > > > >markOpoleO > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Abe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 3:32 PM > > > >Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100] > > > > > > > > > > > >> Yes, the sentence "How much faster is it going to be at 800mhz or > > even > > > >900mhz > > > >> then it is now?" from my previous email was intended as sarcastic > > irony > > > >not a > > > >> true question. I have experience with over clocked ram and cpu's. > > Like > > > >you > > > >> I've learned that it is not worth it. If I need pc-150 performance I > > will > > > >buy > > > >> pc-150 DIMMs. If I need a gig processor I'll buy one. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Abe > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >===== Original Message From John Rye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ===== > > > >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> >> > > > >> >> Abe, > > > >> >> The extra speed that comes as a result of overclocking IS > > > >noticable, > > > >> but > > > >> >> not a big change. A more significant question is: if a system is > > > >> overclocked > > > >> >> but stable, how long will it remain stable, and what will you go > > > >through > > > >> >> before you find the culprit: how much trouble will it cause you > > and > > is > > > >it > > > >> >> worth it. I include a copy of a posting I sent to newbie in May. > > The > > > >> >> relevant sentence is : " These things [ referring to 15% > > overclocking ] > > > >> were > > > >> >> OK and had worked well for a year and a half." I've done it, and > > my > > > >answer > > > >> >> is that I doubt I will overclock again. As always, remember that > > your > > > >> >> mileage will vary. -Gary- > > > >> >> > > > >> >> Subj: [newbie] beware old hardware optimizations > > > >> >> Date: 5/27/2000 > > > >> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> >> > > > >> >> I had taken hardware optimizations for granted; this is a > > reminder > > > >that > > > >> >> things can change over time. > > > >> >> Having read here a while back that Linux is very demanding of > > > >hardware > > > >> >> set me thinking. For the last six months I've had problems with > > > >Windows > > > >> >> Scandisk completing. I suspected my hard drive was heading toward > > > >failure > > > >> >> [before I was disabled I was a computer technician, and this IS > > one > > of > > > >the > > > >> >> first signs of hard drive failure a user will see], and before I > > > >installed > > > >> >> Linux Mandrake 7 I installed a new HDD. The Windows Scandisk > > problem > > > >> >> remained. > > > >> >> In trying to solve Linux WordPerfect vs. StarOffice installs > > > >corrupting > > > >> X > > > >> >> windows, and sound configuration failures it occured to me to > > remove > > my > > > >15% > > > >> >> overclocking and accelerated DIMM timing from my hardware. These > > > >things > > > >> were > > > >> >> OK and had worked well for a year and a half. Removing the > > > >overclocking > > > >> >> solved the Scandisk problem. The DIMM timing changed nothing and > > was > > > >> reset. > > > >> >> Too bad this didn't fix my Linux problems. > > > >> >> -Gary- > > > >> >> > > > >> >> In a message dated 9/13/2000 11:42:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > >> >> > > > >> >> << > > > >> >> How much faster is it going to be at 800mhz or even 900mhz then > > it > > is > > > >now? > > > >> >> And how unstable will it be? Bottom line is, I don't need to > > over > > > >clock > > > >> it > > > >> >> to > > > >> >> feel like I got my moneys worth. If it ain't broke it works just > > fins > > > >and > > > >> >> should be left alone. > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> >Gary if you've been round the industry long enough you'll remember > > the > > > >> >good old Z-80. > > > >> > > > > >> >We used to run Z-80 based S-100 boards in multi-user MPM systems. > > The > > > >> >boards > > > >> >(manufacturer forgotten) supplied 1Mhz Z-80's and clocks on the > > boards > > > >> >which we replaced. We clocked all of the cards on the buss to 10Mhz > > and > > > >> >got fantastic performance!!!!!!!! And it worked well on these > > beasts. > > > >> > > > > >> >We had several very happy customers how really loved the 5 times > > > >> >thru-put > > > >> >increase. Multiple fans the whole 9 yards to keep them cool. > > > >> > > > > >> >However there was a downside..................... > > > >> > > > > >> >Really pungant smells throughout the offices, smoke detectors going > > off > > > >> >for no apparent reason, inexplicable loss of data, and what was > > really > > > >> >strange was the lovely green laquer on the boards went a really dark > > > >> >brown !!! > > > >> > > > > >> >Now that's overclocking!!! > > > >> > > > > >> >I should add that none of these systems lasted more than 6 months > > !! > > > >> > > > > >> >I couldn't agree more with your suggestion that overclocking may be > > > >> >detrimental to the performace of the system.. > > > >> > > > > >> >I wonder how I get my tongue out of mt cheek now.. any suggestions? > > > >> > > > > >> >Cheers > > > >> > > > > >> >PS I guess I should advise any contenders for the Americas Cup that > > we > > > >> >Kiwis still don't overclock <grin> > > > >> > > > > >> >-- > > > >> >ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > > > >> Jesus saves, > > > >> Allah forgives, > > > >> Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > Jesus saves, > > > Allah forgives, > > > Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. > > > > > > > > > >